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Visitation for your children
Submitted by jblair09 on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 15:57
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Send to friendWith any order there should be some type of agreement with access to your children, if you give plenty of notice if you are unavailable or sick, these can be changed so you can have acccess. If it is suppervised please contact your childs cso 1 week before to make sure they know it is coming up, with all the children cso's have they often can look over a child's visit(and some times not intentionally), they become sick and forget to let the office know or for whatever reason, just remember that you too can be in control of see your child, aske to go into the office and see them if the case officer is not available. It shows that you are willing to bend sometime, not that your feel like giving them a fare go, after having a child taken, but what would you rather not see your child/ren at all. Make situations where you and the cso can agree to disagree, this way you get to see your children. Make sure the dept are aware of your orders and make sure to notify both the cso and the team leader if you are not getting the arranged visits. Ask for an explaination. When your child is taken, ask for a Placement meeting, in this you can ask for and request things that you want and dont want for your child. Makee sure they write them down and get you a signed copy so that you have it on hand. When you have visits dont make it about what the dept did and saying anything to give your children hope as when it doe not happen you are the one in the bad light when your children ask "why this did not happen you said it would". KEP VISITS about you and them and family ONLY. The dept watch and report everything on what happens, so make it light play games and have a great time with your children, if you are stressed they will pick it up and they will be stressed. Anyway have fun and have loads of visits. remember speak to cso's that is what their jobs are for when they have your kids.
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Re: Visitation for your children
Hi Jblair
I wish it was that easy. We have just been given the biggest run around by Barnardo's in relation to a sibling visit this coming week/end and they are not giving an inch.
We are in Victoria, sibling group carved up into 3 agencies and 3 seperate carers , so no flights can be arranged at all as yet. Our kids are State of origin Victorian children being held by DoCS NSW . No maternal family living in NSW at ALL !
Our eldest sibling is in deep trouble at the moment and two others are being mentally/emotionally abused by their carer not to mention a physical a assault also.
We need to see them as to their well being , DoCS are lying through their teeth in order to protect their abusive carer. Now Barnardo's are doing the same to the older boy who was punched in the stomach and starved for the next three days hence he is with hir third lot of permanent carers, so we've just been told.
The damage trail of DoCS/DoHS continues . ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !
pj
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Re: Visitation for your children
You just have to remember to be consitant, and keep asking, when deniged visits are you a parent or family member? It would be wize to maybe get the Community worker that is assigned to the child and get them to tell the community worker what is happening. Each child in care is now given this person to report to if they are not being heard by the dept. A chyild can speak to the CW Community Worker who "the dept has to answer to" and ask them to call you so you can give your concerns to the worker. These workers work outside the dept and are an independant company who report and monitor the dept. Your children should arleady have one of their own, the carers cannot intervien when a CW is in tendance so the child can speak freely. If you have concern get the child to report to the school nurses, so they can back you guys up and if the said child can get himself to a medical centre, get them to go in and ask for a doctor and tell them what is happening. These things cannot be ignored by the dept if the child is seeking his/her own help to remiday a situation. A doctor will not knock a child in care back if they need help in the form of some type of protection. Tell the child to be very strong and demand to have visitations set up as it is their right and the "Care of duty to the child is to keep in contact with the family at all costs necessary. this is dept ruling.
Jblair09
Re: Visitation for your children
contact with the family is noit only department ruling but legislated under child and family law acts. it is also under the human rights and childrens convention. however, and i dont know what makes you believe what you read, just because it exists does not mean it is enforced. anywhere. i too was once a firm believer in our justice system. now i see it exists for the rich, the liars and the government.
Re: Visitation for your children No Respect To Law or Rights
Contact with Family..........DoCs are not interested in quality family time as a healthy input into a childs future.
DoCs are busy carving family up and destroying sibling bonds, relationships etc etc etc.
DoCs do not respect their own policy, procedures, directives....and cetainly do not respect family law either.
Human rights = Their are no human rights where DoCs are concerned....its all inhuman
pj
Re: Visitation for your children
Hmmmmmmmm. J Blair you are doing a good job at trying to mediate theses situations however our difficulty in a lot of these situations is we do have the laws that provide for the assistance etc, however these laws are not being enforced and cso's are running people ragged with their endless stream of demands.
I too wish it was that easy, and for each and every person in this forum, their human rights under the charter of human rights enabled by the genoeva convention, and the convention of the rights of the child are just thrown to the wind, and most of the time we do have the judges to blame because these are the guys stripping away our rights with no disregard to either of the above.
Refugees seem to have more rights than us.
I wish you luck in your endeavours, however we are taking a different approach now and that is laying charges for each and every docs and assocaited worker whom breaks the law in their infinite wisdom thinking we are too ignorant to notice or stupid to know what to do.
As the Hollies say in their great song "The times they are a changing ......."
Marney
Director Alecomm
Re: Visitation for your children/ Human Rights
The laws/rights are stripped away from parents who cannot and never will be able to fund such court action that requires a family court judge to make judgement and hear all evidence on the unethical practices of DoCs.
DoCs are aware of this , which is another reason why they continue their unethical standards.
No voice to be heard, in fact they have the children's court on side in GAGGING practices when parents try to get media help due to not being able to fund a family law case.
I will repeat .... Shakespeare's Quote
There is something rotten in DENMARK ( NSW )
pj
Re: Visitation for your children/ Human Rights
The laws/rights are stripped away from parents who cannot and never will be able to fund such court action that requires a family court judge to make judgement and hear all evidence on the unethical practices of DoCs.
DoCs are aware of this , which is another reason why they continue their unethical standards.
No voice to be heard, in fact they have the children's court on side in GAGGING practices when parents try to get media help due to not being able to fund a family law case.
I will repeat .... Shakespeare's Quote
There is something rotten in DENMARK ( NSW )
pj
Re: Visitation for your children
Sorry i've not been on for a while, yes I agree in alot of cases this is happening but I am just saying to use every method given to you, to use by the law first and then loads more if the system is not workng for you. I have just finished doing the same thing and I won and I am still doing it by the system + extra. It is never an easy path but you have to just keep on going until the result is you get the children back. If you have Proof of lies and misleading information you can always respond (respond to in an " Responce Affidate") in the courts to these with your own witnesses and proof. And yes you may not get the Judge that reads through everything properly or questions you the way you want, but in saying this "Why were the Children Taken in te First place" by the dept,"to stop the abuse in the first place by "ANYONE". I am hearing a lot of people saying good on you to the guy who had his child die "at the dept hands", but no one saying "if you wanted to keep your son so badly, "stay off the drugs", and then when the child died every one is Oh my you poor thing. WTH is wrong with you all, the child would of and at any time could have died at the hands of his parents or his father who clearly says he was glad he got caught with drugs in his house and that would be the last time he had them in his home. WTH, if he loved his kid that much why were they there in the first place if he had the dept coming twice before. Sorry but I find it hard to read his excuse and then feel sorry for something that was to bound to happen to the child at some time in the future anyways around both sets of parents using drugs. I'm not saying he deserved to have his child die or anything like that but why do parent cry that it is not their fault that a child is take when clearly the child is in some trauma
1. By the use of drugs by both parent/s (even though they don't see it that way)
2. The trauma at having been removed from their care (even though it is in the babies best interes to protect)
3. The trauma the child suffers by watching it's parents drug effected. What doi the parents think the childs sees when they are using.
4. The trauma of only getting supervised visits/timed contact by parents.
And to say it now I am NOT a Dept Spy, I am a mum of 4 children(my own, and 4 foster children(all raised by my family)and all who are in contact with theirfamilies regularly and I have taken custody of my niece from these so called great parents who did not think drugs were the problem, and that the dept stole their child/ren from them.
"The dept" never let the child keep in proper contact even though contact was every week twice a week and non controlled phone contact.
They contacted the child only when they remembred they had a dughter.
So I am not bashing him(lukes dad) for no reason, but to say that there is a different story everytime that the dept has to investigate and who really knows who is lieing most of the time. so, Not to disrespect anyone as a lot of you have huge complaints about the system/s in place and clearly there does need to be a change, but it has not been done yet, so you have to work with what is available to you NOW. Good Luck. I did it and won. Oh yes I forgot I did it by myself,No lawyers but with the help of the court officer who submitts paperwork to the Court/Judge and ask them if you are doing the right thing and is there anything else that you can get to help your case. Sorry if I offended you Lukes Dad I was using you as an example not to abuse your sons death but to use your case as an example to cros referance with mycase which by what you have said about your case, and that is Very similar to my Nieces case. Still sorry you have lost your son to a BAD Carer who clearly did not do what they were suposed to do...
Jblair09