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Hello,
I thought I might add something here as I have a new son and want to share something with you.
I study law and commerce in the international arena.
Allow me to explain a few things in relation to DOC's just so people can understand what might be going on with there children.
When DOCS come to your home to steal your child its actually their child or state chattel and this child has a BOND that runs off the birth certificate, the same one that you signed giving the state power of attorney over your child.
This Bond is been underwritten and valued at roughly 1 million dollars and has been sent over to say china to service a debt that australia might have over in that particular part of the world!
This is like a performance Bond and your child has to perform by way of paying when they work and tax etc collected earns a nice amount for the govt and so they need your consent to hand over your property when the child is born by way of registration. which in turn you did without known the full implications. So there is a full disclosure issue here and under international law you do have a way to recover the child.
But for now they have assumed full title over the child and the child is there property and must be kept in tip top condition for a slave must make profit for the corporation known as AUSTRALIA.
which by the way is a registered company with shareholders that have a vested interest in paying other corporations money to keep there slaves fit for future work, obligations and servicing the national debt. One such company that is on the payroll to look after state chattel is DOC'S and is why they get paid 6 K for every child they extract and keep maintenance there of.

I hope this clears up the issue of their child.

J.

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DocSniper's picture

You hit the nail on the head J:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHvTy_fVdJ8
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3543161691381895251
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030443037963555139
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSk51Lp-vHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9bVd3BspIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxQLiy7AHx8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh8CtZ3JCVA
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49593951035&ref=ts

Those links back up to what you are stating.
DOCS in truth are just a puppet,The recruiters.
The government in Aust are also just a puppet.That will enforce that Slavery.
Our schools Programs, media programs us all, most will become that Slave, Some will die to try to stop it.
But that is a few years from now, While we still have this chance,It is time to stand up or we will end up like the Jews did in WW2.

DOCS = Death of children services
DHS = Death of Human Souls
Thy sty of thy eye is ecumenical Gone. Thy eye see's thy Myopia in thy Pharisees. And a Lumber jack is required.

The Pied Piper's picture

No, he did not, he hit his thumb.

You and J should go rent the movie "BUG" with Ashley Judd, Michael Shannon, and Harry Connick Jr.

Let me know which character you're both playing.

DocSniper's picture

In hidden words we see the truth

I bet your a DOCS worker

DOCS = Death of children services
DHS = Death of Human Souls
Thy sty of thy eye is ecumenical Gone. Thy eye see's thy Myopia in thy Pharisees. And a Lumber jack is required.

The Pied Piper's picture

Hidden?

I didn't hide any words... seriously had to go look up who was in the movie though cause had know idea of the spelling.

Name is Julie, I foster children. This can often put me right in opposition with DoCS and the way they do things. As the babysitter I get to witness the damage but have no power to stop it.

I don't think there is a conspiracy; That would require dedication to a cause, concrete policy, they would have to be able to work as a team at all times in an intelligent and cohesive way.

Does that sound like your average collection of DoCS individuals?

A conspiracy would be of some comfort and a great explanation for things going so horribly wrong with lives damaged or destroyed.

This is just a monster created by budgetting, overwhelming numbers of children, people who stopped caring and who are not held accountable for their actions when they do. And yeah of course some are outright evil - they're to be found everywhere.

I think when you do get overpowered or beocome a victim sometimes you build an image of the enemy and it grows bigger and bigger in your mind. Next step is paranoid thinking.

I've read all your posts, you're seething. Personally I like the energy you have.

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If I am Wrong,I am sorry.

I am in no way in any paranoid frame of mind. I dont use 10% of the brain, I use the 100% of brain power I have.

I can show you and give you documented proof of that conspiracy, You will see the Manipulation and Fabrications.
Thats how I meet my last Partner, when she started to read, she could not believe it, when she was with me and the saw how it was done, She believed everything I showed her, when DOCS started to attack her,cause she stood up with me, she caved in and then Dumps me. A whole yr and we were battling DOCS and winning, cause the 2 of us were the bond. Now is is a lap dog and will roll over and submit to them.

Bligh was the minister for child safety, she also knows the game, she knows how to cover up.
Yes, there is docs workers that are so hell bent in murdering normal stable families. to why is there homeless children on the streets?. and young girls at 13-14-15 pregnant ?. why does not any DOCS worker try to help there children? cos theres is no money in it for the government.
Why is there people who claim to help people like me, only to reject and refuse to offer that support to seek the truth?.,
I say again: If I am that Animal as DOCS states I am, why am I here, begging for the help?.
Why am I here?. to seek pity,FRK no, I want the truth of me in the open, I want the world to know, That I am NO kid frker.
I have Done all I can with in the law to seek this Justice and there is None in this Country. Cos, I am A nothing and a Nobody. But my kids have value for they are a commodity to the government. in 5 yrs of this shit, how many were employed. Just with me. Heaps, now times that by 10.000 other abused souls that docs frk up their lives and you have Money rolling out so fast.
If DOCS concedes, it proves I am right and a compo of 100's of millions is MINE. it is way better for DOCS/government to add more to me and make me out the mental case for DOCS to Submit to the truth will Prove I am right.
Why take a 20 minute new born to court to have a placement for him,. When it is I DOCS claims is the Kid frker, Should I not be the one in the court room, should i not be questioned then charged?.
If I molested any of your children, and you have that said proof. and your kids points to me. two things should happen.1: you will kill me." 2: you will report me.But, why then am I still walking free?, why are you not complaining? to my freedom, as people did with Ferguson. he ran from the media and hide, I dont, I run to the media and they run away from me.
Cause if my truth was ever made public, it will bring down the government. and prove that corruption. and by me, I will open the doors to many others in the same boat.
I did not bring my children into this world to be stolen and abused by the government., I Brought my kids in the world for my selfishness of the death of my 7 week old son.I know I can never replace him,Never, But I can replace my dead heart to live and be happy. by having children, One dad, One mom, One family is my frking dream and goals, I did that. I made my dream and goals come true. And DOCS and government murders it.
I am a road kill, I am as frking ugly as they come, but,when a female, see's my heart she will fall in love with me. and thats what I cherish and protect to the best of my ability. My 2 sons are all named after my dead one. my dead son is Zachary daniel, then theres dominic zachry and then is Zachary nicholos, My woman allowed me to place them names to them, cos she was in love with me and understood my pains. DOCS murdered that Love, murdered my life and made my kids have no true father,. ME.

Now where is being paranoid in all this?......
I have Spoken the truth from word go, and have not altered once, compared to DOCS.
I want to be a man to my woman, I want to be a father to my children. I want my frking freedom. And DOCS robs me of everything to cover up their Lies. and that frking Slut Bligh couldnt careless. No one in power couldnt give a frk.
cos to them, I am so meaningless, but to one person, I was everything.

DOCS = Death of children services
DHS = Death of Human Souls
Thy sty of thy eye is ecumenical Gone. Thy eye see's thy Myopia in thy Pharisees. And a Lumber jack is required.

The Pied Piper's picture

No Arguement here.

I haven't lived in Australia long enough to get a handle on the government or the attitudes of the people.

So if you'd put up with me slowly getting my head around a few things I'd appreciate it.

First you were accused of "things" and then "they" turn up right after a baby was born..? They take your kids and turn your woman against you but not until after she did join you fighting "them" for awhile..?

Did they convince her or threaten her with removal of more children or holding on to the ones they have?

This was a long battle and you continued to fight but have now reached a standstill...?

What help are you after?

Maybe a bigger question is what help did you expect to get?

I would say I would be next to uselss as far as help goes - had my own battle recently when I saw the department damage a small child and have written to MP's, DoCS bosses, Ombudsman, Court, blah blah blah.. got nothing back and really that's about what I expected.

Now I have to keep a cool head as the children still in my care need protecting as well. I also don't want to stop fostering or be stopped fostering.

Rock and a Hard place.

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So be it:Let this be my Court room,Let me be judged here.

Your Questioning is good, Thats more then I will ever get from DOCS and or the Cops.
So I will answer these,As you asked.

I haven't lived in Australia long enough to get a handle on the government or the attitudes of the people.
(I pity you coming here,This is not that lucky country as one would be thinking)
So if you'd put up with me slowly getting my head around a few things I'd appreciate it.
(Granted. and respected and thank you)
First you were accused of "things" and then "they" turn up right after a baby was born..? They take your kids and turn your woman against you but not until after she did join you fighting "them" for awhile..?
(1: Yes,Correct. once when my eldest son was about 4-5 around 1990-1,Due to someone ringing up and dogging me in due to the hate to me)
The 2nd was in 1996,After my cocksuxer brother did molester children and his own,and Again I am dogged in, I took my daughter to family Doctor to be examined, Clean and untouched, I then Shoved that report in DOCS face and told them they are nothing but frking retards and thought that was the end of that. How wrong was I.
The 3rd is classed as Paedophilia,Under the now laws of Australia,Any man that has sex with a minor,14-15-16,Is Classed as that. A paedophile, Whether this man is 17 or 177,Your a kid frker.
If this child,14-15-16, Willing gave, With no abuse or forcing or grooming or buying. That man is still a Kid frker to DOCS and the now government.I know for a Fact.That there is DOCS workers who have been molested or abused in their life and now in a position to take vengeance.Why ya think Bligh is so cold for ?.
Meanwhile, In SA, a 16 yr old can obtain a license to drive a car and become the killer or be killed on the roads.
Facts. The X son(17) has sex with his 14 yr old GF,Even moves in with her in her parents home,after I tried to telling him he will end up like me,His mother begs him and he choices his GF over his mother, 3-4weeks later he returns home.
Family SA knows of this and do nothing. Why?. Yet a school teacher(female) has sex with her student and she walks away with a slap,A man would be marched right to prison.
At 14 a child has to pay adult fees to movie,A child at 17 can be placed in prison for DOCS and the State government differ on the Age factor,To DOCS your still a child to 18, To the Government of the State at 14 they are classing them Adults. Your still a child at 25 to centre link,If you still goto a School and still live with a parent/s. From statutory rape to unlawful carnal knowledge to Paedophilia. And Even a Terrorist will be treated far better,then a man being branded by the Government has a paedophile.
What if a Man Say???. Just murdered his wife and say his 5,5 children and the house cat. Would DOCS now stop that man from ever having another family????.Or would the RSPCA now stop him ever owning a cat ?. Nopes. Due to concern that they only make up? they make the rules as it goes along. They will murder a normal family.cause they fail to do a true investigation, and will Abuse to get what they want. Right or Wrong. And Thats Corruption. When DOCS chooses who can and can not be a father,Thats playing God and a God I dont believe in.

Did they convince her or threaten her with removal of more children or holding on to the ones they have?

(Yes, Very Correct. Thats why now the X hates me and to why she did what she did to End this relationship.Due to DOCS doing their abuse to her and her children,she herself was molested/abused as well as her 3 eldest,the youngest(thx god) hasnt been damaged until DOCS.This Whole family accepted me for me,her children had no issues with me,I made sure they all know of my past,and spoke honestly and openly to them all.Even the youngest started to say I am her step dad(bloody felt good that did) to all her friends. I undertook a polygraph test and past it, I spoke the truth,this the X now truely believes me.and we were a very good team,we made progress and were getting heard,Until june of 08, Family Sa came and placed a knife to the heart and just pushed. And slowly the family was no more.dreams killed,hopes shattered.and love becomes Hate.)

This was a long battle and you continued to fight but have now reached a standstill...?

( yes.I am in a city that is so corrupted,Where I will ring a lawyer for help and as soon as they know its me, cant help, or wont return ph calls, and thats any lawyer,including legal aid,even when I supplied them with all the proof of my innocents,they still say i dont warrant and or I have no chance of winning or Whatever other crap that flows from their lips.Sounds like corruption to me.this rejection I get from anyone in a position to offer anything
When I 1st found out in 2003,that I am a kid frker, I requested a interview with DOCS and was told to get out of the building or i be charger with trespassing.
In 2005 when they stole my son and told my X to leave me, She didnt. we stayed in secret for nine months,Part time everything,man,BF,father. She fell pregnant and I, Yes, Me, I,rang up DOCS and requested a half way point to be a lab rat, so I could keep my family.by 14th feb 06,I am dumped and never to see again. Sep 06 is the other X,when 2 months gone, we/I/us try to request that half way point yet again for me to be that lab rat,So that I could keep this family,No concerns what so ever from DOCS. I goto Nelson-carr,cant get past the front desk and I am suppose to have One meeting with my local Polly,I goto Lindsey MP and he quotes to me, leave this city and dont have kids. when The X is about 7 months gone, we then get a visit from DOCS with concerns. The X said my only concerns is how you are going to rip this family apart and we closed the door on them, 2-3 weeks later we get a cop raid, and 1 cop asked the X, of how/why/when we meet, another cop then tells me to leave the city. the x is so scared and we plan to have the baby elsewhere and she goes to toowoomba where her parents are and I was to come at a later date before the baby was to born. I did this and on the 29th of Aug 07 my son Zachary Nicholos is born at 1:06am and by 1:30am I am surrounded by five cops and forced and march out and never to see my son ever again, two days later I had to leave and that was the very last time I ever ever saw my woman ever again.)

What help are you after?

(Other then Christ to come, Justice, Revenge, Accountability, Punishment, For a sorry and a hardy handshake will never ever ever cut it.Thats what the offered me that night when 2 cops attacked me the night when my 7 week old baby dies and I take him to the hospital to try and save him, I get Attacked and to this day,I dont even know Why. C3-c4-c5 is rooted, my left side shoulder is frked,my left side back in pain. in 2004 I had 3 men come to my home and place my head into a cement pillar and then place a steal tubing across my back breaking 3 of my ribs and with each hit calling me a kid frker with each hit my only words are, No, I am Not. they get six months and I still get threatened with knife and the cops do nothing, he try's to run me over and I report it, cops do nothing, I was suppose to get a compo, the government took it and said I owed the state.
from 04 to 07, I have had death threats,people trying to run me over, people coming to my home to set fire to it, and the Law do nothing.
I live now in my home as a prisoner and bury myself on this net and scream out.
What price value can any one place on me not seeing the 1st of anything, not to hear the 1st words, 1st b'day,1st everything,and the last 8 yrs of their lies of me, Is accountable.

Maybe a bigger question is what help did you expect to get?

( what I expected was that human compassion to hear the truth of a man pleading for mercy,instead i am placed on a cross.)

I would say I would be next to uselss as far as help goes - had my own battle recently when I saw the department damage a small child and have written to MP's, DoCS bosses, Ombudsman, Court, blah blah blah.. got nothing back and really that's about what I expected.
( these government bodies are only puppets and retards, And you people reading this voted them in.)

Now I have to keep a cool head as the children still in my care need protecting as well. I also don't want to stop fostering or be stopped fostering.
( you are programmed to the way DOCS want you to be.)
Rock and a Hard place.

DOCS = Death of children services
DHS = Death of Human Souls
Thy sty of thy eye is ecumenical Gone. Thy eye see's thy Myopia in thy Pharisees. And a Lumber jack is required.

The Pied Piper's picture

Judge, Jury and Executioner.

I think the trial is over. If you ever did a bad thing in your life you have more than paid for it now.

There is no way to return all those missed years/children/women to you and there is no compenstation comming your way.

There is a need to accept that no appolgies or explanations of why this part of life went so wrong are on the horizon.

I am horrified at what has happened to you, it was unjust and cruel and your rage is understandable and your persistance is admirable.

The compassion is there and I hope you take it on board but this reality may not be of any help.

From here where do you go? This self styled prison can not work, you are drowning in your own rage.

A bigger and life altering change is required before you turn this anger on yourself or the anger itself changes into some whimpering afraid thing in a dark corner.

Your history does not need to define every part of your being and a stand has to be made alone for you to not let it own your future.

The energy is there to change something, and change something big.

Let go, never forget and never again let it own you.

DocSniper's picture

If mohamad wont come to the mountain, Then the mountain will.

I trial is never over, till I walk out of a court room a free man.
There is away to regain at lest a partner back, But DOCS are to be kept out of it.
Compensation will come also.
What DOCS and this Government did to me, Would warrant any other human to have Crossed a line.
There is NO compassion anywhere. For if there was, Justice would be served.

From here, I the mountain will Go and Make DOCS do what they should have done many years ago, Be accountable. Wont matter much to me, what prison I am in.
The only altering is from DOCS to admit the err and pay for it.
My history is just that a History, Yet,DOCS makes it my future.

I will never let go, Till that day I die, or that Justice comes.

DOCS = Death of children services
DHS = Death of Human Souls
Thy sty of thy eye is ecumenical Gone. Thy eye see's thy Myopia in thy Pharisees. And a Lumber jack is required.

The Pied Piper's picture

For Justice

"Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move the earth."

Where are you going to stand Sniper?

DocSniper's picture

Lets be a BreaveHeart or a John Q

When a human is Innocent he/she fights in their only ability to Stand up and be counted, A solo Warrior,Travels alone.
But a foundation of warriors travelling in the same direction, Are a might to reckon with.

Stand with me, No in words, not in thoughts, But stand beside me as a Unit. For we will gather other Solo warriors to become a family and as such will have a voice that will be heard.

Seek me here http://apps.new.facebook.com/causes/200055?m=3124eff7

There is also a way to take DOCS to a court room. I have the said law Documents, I just have that lack of ability to fill it out in a lawful legal tender to be accepted in a court of law.hence to why no lawyer or legal help will offer to help me.
The firmest ground to stand is with Justice in a court room. I really dont need that lawyer, But, I do really need help to fill out the said documents.

Without that true Support and compassion, My battle will always be in solo mode.

DOCS = Death of children services
DHS = Death of Human Souls
Thy sty of thy eye is ecumenical Gone. Thy eye see's thy Myopia in thy Pharisees. And a Lumber jack is required.

The Pied Piper's picture

Skinny

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australian gov

why do the powers that be go have those meetings off shore.....THEY ARE SETTING UP THE ONE WORLD ORDER..... they are corrupted, there is no justice in ANY country.....AND THE WORLD WAS WARNED about governing bodies promising CHANGE and that change will be for the worse....it is ordained.... break up the family unit to weaken the people....BUT will it work.....the masses are smartening up...... some never will...they will be led blindly into the trap ahead....and the so called "rebels" that dont conform....well one can only hope, THAT THEY ARE WELL ARMED!!!!

DocSniper's picture

Genocide: Hitler did it, and Now this government is doing it.

Correct: 2012 is not about the earth going BOOM. its the One world order, The One world government. And Australia is the testing ground.
Rip the family apart and you have a Division in the Unit.
DOCS = Nazi's, And we all know what happened to the Jews, Dont we. Fascism is coming and you the Voters are the Retards that votes them in.
Wake up and get out of your kitty litter, Make that Stand now, or die as the jews did. The humble and meek can be strong and not be the sheep to this Government.

If we that are abused dont get our act together, we will be slaughtered.

DOCS = Death of children services
DHS = Death of Human Souls
Thy sty of thy eye is ecumenical Gone. Thy eye see's thy Myopia in thy Pharisees. And a Lumber jack is required.

The Pied Piper's picture

Hitler

Hitler didn't succeed and I believe the Jews are very busy killing Palestinians as we chat.

We wont be slaughtered. You wish you had a handle on something that Big but really it is petty and political and loss is all there is.

We learn and learn but none the wiser grow.

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Fark

Shut up you complete antagonistic wanker.

ifitwasn'tsoseriousitwouldbefunny's picture

To Jewely

I read all the above comments with interest.
Firstly I would like to point out that by you complaining about the actions of DChS they will then turn the tables on you. Truely, others complain this happens. Docs will get nasty with you even though you have a right to be a voice for those children and you have a right to make complaints as you have. But in reality docs don't like it and will make you pay for it.
Secondly about the conspiracy thing. Well to my way of thinking it would seem these CSO's and their team leaders are given an awful lot of power whereby they don't have to be accountable or ethical or even professional. I would say that the conspiracy stuff by docs would be contained in each little cirle - i.e. team leader with newish CSO. But once the notification paperwork is sent onto another state as in Mr Snipers case the next state of docs workers act extremely cautiously, even to the point of being paranoid about this person. So what do they do? They then add to the already falsified allegations. So it in turn becomes another little conspiracy.
Now that movie "Bug" is about communicated maddness. Folier deur - can't spell the exact psychiatric term for this illness but it is in the DSM IV somewhere, surely.
I would say that docs are paranoid and they suffer from communicated maddness not the chaps who are writing their stories on here.
I have been told that docs are paranoid by Centrecare counsellors. I see this parania in their (docs) way of dealing with my clients in the welfare sector - those who unfortunately have docs in their lives.
And I have it on tape by a team leader who clearly tells me that we (Docs and the parents) are on opposing sides - so I can deduct that it is not about the child's best interests but rather a legal game which docs are hell bent on wining. So enter the lies and confabulations or pergury or what ever you wish to call it. Docs have lots of money to throw at these cases and therefore can write all sorts of things to paint a terrible picture of the parent to the magistrate. It is what docs do best, they are very skilled at lying to win. Docs already have the trump card by knowing the rules of the game and having had lots of previous experience as dismantling families. The little parent doesn't have a chance.
Docs could take any child off any parent and somehow twist their information to make it sound like the child is at enormous risk if he/she stays in that home environment.
So good on you Jewely for doing what you do. Good on you for having strong personal ethics and values. I hope you are rewarded somehow for your work.

And I must admit I think you are a kiwi? I have noticed many New Zealanders coming to Oz and working for docs. They are the ones supervising the children during the supervised access visits, etc. Just my observations.

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