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Posting On An Internet Forum - A Guide To Terms And Behaviour

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It probably pays to familiarise yourself with these terms, concepts and ideas before you post on any forum on the Internet:

  • Blogger's Code of Conduct
    The Blogger's Code of Conduct is a proposal by Tim O'Reilly for bloggers to enforce civility on their blogs by being civil themselves and moderating comments on their blog. The code was proposed due to threats made to blogger Kathy Sierra[1]. The idea of the code was first reported by BBC News, who quoted O'Reilly saying, "I do think we need some code of conduct around what is acceptable behaviour, I would hope that it doesn't come through any kind of regulation it would come through self-regulation."

    O'Reilly and others came up with a list of seven proposed ideas:

    1. Take responsibility not just for your own words, but for the comments you allow on your blog.
    2. Label your tolerance level for abusive comments.
    3. Consider eliminating anonymous comments.
    4. Ignore the trolls.
    5. Take the conversation offline, and talk directly, or find an intermediary who can do so.
    6. If you know someone who is behaving badly, tell them so.
    7. Don't say anything online that you wouldn't say in person.
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  • Netiquette
    Netiquette began before the 1989 start of the World Wide Web. Text-based email, Telnet, Usenet, Gopher, Wais, and FTP dominated Internet traffic, which was used mainly by educational and research bodies. At that time, it was considered somewhat indecent to make commercial public postings, and the limitations of insecure, text-only communications demanded that the community have a common set of rules. The term "netiquette" has been in use since 1988, as evidenced by early posts of the satirical Dear Emily Postnews column.
     
  • Thread hijacking
    Thread hijacking in internet forum communication is the act of steering a discussion off-topic by discussing a subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
  • While this can be an intentional act of trolling, it is often accidental - caused by participants in the discussion responding to a throwaway remark, thus taking the thread off at a tangent to the original subject matter. The results often provoke a feeling of resentment from the author of the original post.
     

  • Flamebait
    Flamebait is a message posted to a public Internet discussion group, such as a forum, newsgroup or mailing list, with the intent of provoking an angry response (a "flame") or argument over a topic the troll often has no real interest in.
  • The most popular motive is the desire for attention and for entertainment derived at the expense of others. Posted flamebait can provide the poster with a controlled trigger-and-response setting in which to anonymously engage in conflicts and indulge in aggressive behavior without facing the consequences that such behavior might bring in a face-to-face encounter. In other instances, flamebait may be used to reduce a forum's use by angering the forum users.
     

  • Sockpuppet (Internet)
    A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an online community. In its earliest usage, a sockpuppet was a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks with or about himself or herself, pretending to be a different person, like a ventriloquist manipulating a hand puppet.
  • In current usage, the perception of the term has been extended beyond second identities of people who already post in a forum to include other uses of misleading online identities. For example, a NY Times article claims that "sock-puppeting" is defined as "the act of creating a fake online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company."
     

  • Troll (Internet)
    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
  • The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have first appeared on the internet in the late 1980s,[3] but the earliest known example is from 1991. It is thought to be a truncation of the phrase trolling for suckers, itself derived from the fishing technique of slowly dragging a bait through water, known as trolling.[citation needed] The word also evokes the trolls portrayed in Scandinavian folklore and children's tales as they are often obnoxious creatures bent on mischief and wickedness. The verb "troll" originates from Old French "troller", a hunting term. The noun "troll", however, is an unrelated Old Norse word for a giant or demon.
     

  • Hit-and-run posting
    Hit-and-run posting refers to a tactic where a poster at an internet forum enters, makes a post, only to disappear immediately after. The term comes from the hit-and-run crime on auto vehicles, in which the driver hits another car or person causing an accident and runs away. It is also known as making a "drive-by" posting, a play on the phrase drive-by shooting. The post often consists of a lengthy text making lots of claims that can be, but are not always, on topic.
  • Another variety is the sole posting of a URL or link that leads to material that might be used as a discussion primer, but with no added opinion of the poster. It differs from plain spam since forum spam often is posted by spambots, while hit-and-run posting on the other hand is done by a real person. Also, while spam mostly consists of advertising, hit-and-run posts usually have at least some bearing on the topic at hand. However, since the poster doesn't stay around to defend the posted material, or even discuss it, it is considered disrespectful, especially by forum regulars who tend to be angered by the fact that the hit-and-run doesn't become obvious until some or several replies already have been made.
     

  • Godwin's Law
    Godwin's Law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an informal adage coined by Mike Godwin in 1990. The adage states: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches."
  • Godwin's Law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread 'reductio ad Hitlerum' form.

    The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued, that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.

    Although in one of its early forms Godwin's Law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions, the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads and wiki talk pages.

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Prime Minister in waiting's picture

Thats A bit Rich

WM Clemons
Maybe you should pratice what yopu preach. From out of the blue as we have learned you do from time to time - you attacked us claiming we had broken forum rules by putting words into people mouths.

A pls Explain? reply and response to that rather off coment to say the least went out from us.

You never put our comment -= question up

You blocked it.

Our response went on to say you were incorrect in `your ` thoughts that DOCS and Animal Welfare groups must be seperated. We tried to explain they have been working together for some time now trying to educate people of the link between both.

Oh No not connected says yuou- Flip over the another hread started by YOU without a email of discussion - nothing.
You simply refuse to reply to out question after your attacks which was brought on by your own ignorance.

So I ask again - Which makes a dozen times.

Pls explain to us where and how we broke forum rules by putting words in peoples mounths.?

Oh and why did you not put our other posts up- Was it because we proved you wrong?

and you wonder why everybody is leaving.....

Prime Minister in waiting's picture

Thats A bit Rich

WM Clemons
Maybe you should pratice what you preach. From out of the blue as we have learned you do from time to time - you attacked us claiming we had broken forum rules by putting words into people mouths.

A pls Explain? reply and response to that rather off coment to say the least went out from us.

You never put our comment -= question up

You blocked it.

Our response went on to say you were incorrect in `your ` thoughts that DOCS and Animal Welfare groups must be seperated. We tried to explain they have been working together for some time now trying to educate people of the link between both.

Oh No not connected says you- 'Flip' over the another thread started by YOU without a email of discussion - nothing.
You simply refuse to reply to out question after your attacks which was brought on by your own ignorance.

So I ask again - Which makes a dozen times.

Pls explain to us where and how we broke forum rules by putting words in peoples mouths.?

Oh and why did you not put our other posts up- Was it because we proved you wrong?

and you wonder why everybody is leaving.....

Prime Minister in waiting's picture

Thats A bit Rich

Pls note the second post has been through spell check.
Yes I do tend to hit the wrong keys after 16 hour days volunteer work. I am so sorry if my lack of standard doesnt measure up to your high expectations clemons.
Its just that i hadnt noticed any standards set by you when i first joined. So I took it upon myself to try to curb the awful language..

WM Clemons
Maybe you should pratice what you preach. From out of the blue as we have learned you do from time to time - you attacked us claiming we had broken forum rules by putting words into people mouths.

A pls Explain? reply and response to that rather off coment to say the least went out from us.

You never put our comment -= question up

You blocked it.

Our response went on to say you were incorrect in `your ` thoughts that DOCS and Animal Welfare groups must be seperated. We tried to explain they have been working together for some time now trying to educate people of the link between both.

Oh No not connected says you- 'Flip' over the another thread started by YOU without a email of discussion - nothing.
You simply refuse to reply to out question after your attacks which was brought on by your own ignorance.

So I ask again - Which makes a dozen times.

Pls explain to us where and how we broke forum rules by putting words in peoples mouths.?

Oh and why did you not put our other posts up- Was it because we proved you wrong?

and you wonder why everybody is leaving.....

Do try to be honest enough to post my comment. I know its hard for you.

natasha's picture

Sorry I agree with Clemens

DOCS are out there on their own and I thank GOD they are not linked with RSPCA!
What animal welfare worker would take animals from a home where they are thriving ???? I dont think so!!!!

wanna be activist

Prime Minister in waiting's picture

Natasha Clemons rightfully posted these facts:Domestic and Famil

Natasha
i seeyour trying to make a point but it might pay to get your facts straight next time. DOCS are involved with a programe working with RSPCA.

Perhaps you might fair better if you just explain your story- in a clear manner.
see=

RSPCA Qld and dvconnect Domestic and Family Violence Service of Qld have joined forces to help human and animal victims of Domestic and Family Violence.

In what is already being heralded as a major breakthrough, the RSPCA will partner with dvconnect to help women who feel trapped in violent domestic situations because of concerns for their pets.

“Women often delay leaving a violent relationship because they’re worried what will happen to their pets” said Di Mangan Manager of dvconnect. “Unfortunately refuges are not equipped to take animals and until now women have been reluctant to leave if they cannot find or afford emergency pet care.”

The new Pets in Crisis - domestic violence programme will solve this problem by providing temporary care for the pets of women and children during their stay in domestic violence refuges. The programme will initially be trialed for six months and will hopefully help prevent animal cruelty in violent domestic situations. Many families also feel traumatised after they’re forced to abandon pets when they flee the family home. The Pets in Crisis programme will help ease that trauma of loss.

The Pied Piper's picture

Website

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,25662151-2862,00.html

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,25658569-2,00.html

These news aritcles are about a site, it was awful and I have no idea why DoCS isn't all over it and its disgusting behaviour.

The paper wouldn't identify the site but soon as you do a search on the names they mention it is pretty easy to find it so I figured it really didn't make a difference.

I hope they shut the idiots/cowards/creeps down.

http://www.whozadog.com/doglist/index.php?entry=30

The Pied Piper's picture

Question

"Our response went on to say you were incorrect in `your ` thoughts that DOCS and Animal Welfare groups must be seperated. We tried to explain they have been working together for some time now trying to educate people of the link between both."

I was wondering are DoCS in NSW also linked up to animal welfare groups/orgs?

I think the "putting words in peoples mouths" was a general comment from WM at the time and made within a list of offences we had all been a bit guilty of.

I don't believe it was directed at any one particular user.

Might be a great time to talk about how one decides to moderate or police a forum and especially one that can be as volatile as Altnews given its subject matter that evokes a lot of quite raw emotions.

I would like to run a site for foster parents (thank you WM I know I am all set up here ready to go) but I'm quite weary of how DoCS has already been here and it might explain why there is no site with Forums for foster parents out there.

Given that any site for foster parents would have to (in my opinion) also be welcoming to biological parents just for the sake of balance my big concern is that in Australia they aren't particularly supportive of each other.

This is strange given that both parties spend most of their time frustrated, upset and angry at the department that removed and then placed the children concerned to begin with. The one uniting factor in reality separates the two groups where I think they could probably be quite a force if combined with the children as a main priority.

So how does one control any angst without one or both parties being offended at being moderated?

Lukes Dad's picture

Re: Posting On An Internet Forum - A Guide To Terms And ...

Thankyou Clemens for helping me kick off on the net. I started a group on facebook the other day called Luke's Army, over a hundred people joined in 24 hours.

I always said anyone who does something for Lukey, does it for me. You have done so much for me and my little boy. I am eternally in your debt. See you in heaven Clemens. Keep up the good work.

Lifes misfortunes fall disproportionately on the young.

http://lukesarmy.com/

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