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Will you support a national road transport shutdown

Submitted by NRTF on Thu, 10/07/2008 - 21:47
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i support stoppage

Submitted by dave j (not verified) on Mon, 28/07/2008 - 13:05.

hi my name is dave, im a truck driver in Q.L.D.
If only the public knew what us drivers have to put up with on the highways.
No stopping facilities in front of major shops, no toilet or shower facilities in parking bays, parking bays which are R.T.A inspection bays, being pulled over by police and having your cab searched for illegal substances, idiodic demerit poins for petty logbook mistakes, being pushed to make deadlines, if you dont do it they will find somebody else who will.
so wake up australia, see what us blokes out here on the highway have to put up with.
fuel is only one of the issues.
you dont see car drivers, campervans, being harrassed on a daily basis, it just goes to show you trucks are easy picking.
GO TRUCKIES GO!!!!
Dave.

I agree with this stoppage

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 28/07/2008 - 12:41.

I do agree with this stoppage (no I'm not a truck driver but my best friend is) The day he lost his first demerit point was hurtful as now driving a truck is his career choice. He does love it too.

But I would like to ask if you do make a mistake in those lovely logbooks (sarcasm) how do you correct it as there is no rules in the front of the logbook to say how to do it. Just another way they can fine you and take points. If anyone knows this answer I'd love to know. Thanks for letting us know about the fine too for not spelling correctly I only found this out the other day too and thought you have to be joking.

Good luck with getting everything you want to achieve in this stoppage I applaud you. But please don't hurt the ones that are still driving it is there life too.

A reply to the Truckies

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 28/07/2008 - 11:57.

To those of you who want to hurt us normal everyday people.

I hope every industry in the country refuses to provide you with goods and services in retaliation. Goto the doctor,he says "oh I see your a private truck driver, I am sorry we won't serve you" Telstra cuts your phone services. Plumber won't fix your blocked toilet. Get my drift.

See how you feel then when you have nothing.

Honey, We already go

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 28/07/2008 - 13:34.

Honey, We already go without!!! We cant afford plumbers, doctors etc. Our hubbys are away week in week out trying to make a good wage only to have it eaten up in regos, fuel and silly fines. Truckie wives learn how to do things on their own if there is a plumbing problem we fix it, if we are sick we fight it until we are better. Welcome to our world!!! We find solutions to the problems we can and the others we put off until hubby gets home. It is the same with the truckies they have come as far as they are willing too and now the time has come for them to fight for their rights. Support them like they have supported this country.
Im sure you have received the pay rises you deserve in your line of work but do a bit of research and see when the last time was that truckies got a pay rise!!! Im sure you will be surprised at how long them people have kept their mouths shut and just put up with it.
If you were educated on the issues you would know that truckies have sat back and let the representatives of the industry try and find a solution BUT this has not worked so they have to stand together and be heard.
You people really need to spend some time with truckies and walk in their shoes (and their families shoes) you might learn something IF you are unable to find a truckie that will put up with you nonsense you could alway change careers and work for ACA you would do really well at putting truckies down without any evidence!!!

Us normal everyday people

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 28/07/2008 - 12:20.

You must be female and probably blonde out of a bottle. You are the type of person who just sits back an your big fat arse, smoking a cigarette and with a sink full of dirty dishes and shitty nappies waiting a week to be washed and who wants everyone else to do your dirty work. You call yourself a normal eveyday person, so are we but you and your ilk probably got the baby bonus a few times by different fathers as well.And you call yourself f.....g normal. Did you whinge when the teachers of you kids went on strike several times. Wake up to yourself, you stupid bitch. This is the first stoppage since 1979 and you say see how you feel when you have nothing. thats why we are stopping because we have nothing or less, you poor excuse for a human being

tansport stopage

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 22:41.

I am just a wife of a hired truck driver for small company here in our little country town in vic, we have kids, rent, bills etc etc. We live week to week on that wage, Now, I and my hubby do beleive something needs to be done, but this stopage... I can only see the people that NEED our truckies the most, getting hurt!!! The people upstairs will still be sitting having coffee with there biscuts, watching all our farmers (whom have been though enough)the small business (which are always struggling), and the general public suffering, and all upstairs will do is dunk their biscut again and get another biscut, oh...they wll make a press releae to the public, siding with the public of the understanding of the hardship of what the truckies have done to them!!
My heart pounds for what may happen, with this stopage.
Tonight my hubby came home with the fax from the aldoda group.(I have nicknamed them al-dodo's) Warning that my hubby might get hurt, There scare tactic to stop my hubby from driving. HE WILL STILL DRIVE, WE HAVE TO SURVIVE
This is all to much!!! My heart now sinks in worry over the next 2 weeks for my hubby as well as for the people.
I dont know what can be done, but this stopage is not the way to go about it.

Ordinary People have lost Power

Submitted by Von Curtis (not verified) on Sat, 26/07/2008 - 10:55.

I know it is terrible that truckies have to be the ones to make a stand - it is only happening because it is the absolute last resort action - the government has reviews and consultation etc - all just stalling tactics while they squash us more.
All governments will not listen to the people - they are all working for transnational massive corporations, the World Bank and the IMF ( the International Monetary Fund ) .
All governments are hell bent on running our economy into a brick wall and force Australia to join an Asia Pacific Union , take down our borders and allow immigration from the whole region - just like the EU.
Probably a lot of people like the idea of lots of cheap labour coming in from Asia.
People need to know though so they can think about it before it happens. We need to get some power back against the government and I'm afraid truckies are the only group who can wield their power for the little people. There will be people who are paid by the government or big business to stir up trouble for the striking truckies and blame it on them.
We must turn things around for our children.

QLD GOVT SAYS ...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 20:08.

And this is what the Queensland Govt says about the demerit point issue:

http://qta.com.au/pdf/QT_fatigue_letter_and_info_sheet.pdf

A sad state of revenue

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 26/07/2008 - 17:53.

What a truly amazing story this is, I can't help but to run for my hanky after reading this reply,gee,where should I start.Well how about the police force and the way that they hand out infringement notices like it's some kind of joke,or the way that the crimes and misconduct commission say "if you don't like it take it to court" because we have honest police in our state that take their job very seriouly,there's that word, "JOB", you are not the law you only work in the job that enforces it,it's a shame that an educated group of people can't (or won't) see the damage they are doing,stop living in the Toll pocket book and have a crack at reality, the NTC is like a string puppet and the police force answers to no one and if you don't know that by now you don't belong in your job because you have severe impairments.The transport department people to their credit are certainly better than the police but once again there is a problem there as well NOTE:To the honest enforcement people out there this is not aimed at you,but you do know who those ones are and may be you should put your hand up.There is to much power in the wrong hands,the people of this industry need to be heard,after 30 odd years putting up with this crap we've had enough,go get em Mick i'm behind you.What the government is saying is that they make the laws and you have no right to stand up and fight for what is right or wrong for your industry, in fact you have no rights at all, that's it, just sit back, shut your face and cop it on the chin like a man.A bit like the 70s really.For all of you out there that think you won't get knocked off for nothing just remember the spelling mistakes that they took 20 years to change and the fact that if you get stuck some where for the day or week end and you want to go and see some thing you will get knocked off for driving there bob tail,and of course the new one,getting knocked off for not including fueling in your book.I could go on for ages but won't. GOD HELP US ALL

taking back some power

Submitted by Von Curtis (not verified) on Sun, 27/07/2008 - 20:19.

"There is to much power in the wrong hands,the people of this industry need to be heard."

We don't have to go too much further down the track to become a police state. It has happened in other parts of the world.

That is not the Australian way.

Thank heavens for truckies who are making a start to
rescue Australians from government/ multi-national corporate control.

SAFER PAYMENT SYSTEMS FOR HEAVY VEHICLE DRIVERS

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 19:55.

try again, sorry

SAFER PAYMENT SYSTEMS FOR HEAVY VEHICLE DRIVERS

The National Transport Commission (NTC) will investigate and report on driver remuneration and payment methods in the Australian trucking industry and make recommendations for reform.

The NTC will be assisted by Professor Michael Quinlan of UNSW and the Hon Lance Wright QC, the former president of the NSW Industrial Relations Commission.

The NTC will report by November 2008, and the report will be considered by the Australian Transport Council (ATC - Commonwealth, State and territory transport ministers). Working with the ATC, the Government's objective is to implement these reforms in the context of changes to national road transport regulation and the introduction of the new workplace relations system.

The trucking industry prides itself on being highly competitive and efficient. However, the industry's strength can also be its weakness, with truck drivers often finding themselves in a weak bargaining position and unable to maintain safe work practices.

This is especially so at a time when hard-working trucking companies and owner-drivers, who deliver essential food and supplies to supermarket shelves every day, have been hit hard by rising global fuel prices.

The report will examine how current methods and rates of pay for heavy vehicle drivers contribute to poor road safety outcomes, and will identify options for implementing a system of safe rates for both employees and owner-drivers, recognising the special vulnerabilities of independent contractors in the transport industry.

From 2000-2004, one in five road deaths involved heavy vehicles, with speed and fatigue widely acknowledged to be significant factors. During recent years several reports have also linked unsafe work practices in the trucking industry to road accidents.

The investigation follows on from an agreement between Commonwealth, state and territory transport ministers on February 29 concerning the need for a coordinated national transport plan. The NTC was requested to review and make recommendations relating to truck driver pay and remunerations methods.

The Government notes that addressing this matter touches on developments in Commonwealth and State regulations relating to transport and road safety, workplace relations, occupational health and safety and the legislative frameworks for employees and independent contractors.

The Government is committed to working with the transport industry, unions and other stakeholders to improve road safety for Australian families, ensure a fair go for both employees and owner-drivers, and sustain the long-term viability of the trucking industry.

Today's announcement continues the Government's heavy vehicle reform process and complements other safety initiatives, including:

Implementing news laws to limit heavy vehicle driver fatigue and excessive speed; and
A $70 million safety and productivity package which will fund the trial of black box technologies that monitor driving hours and speed as well as the construction of more rest areas along the nation's highways.

http://www.minister.infrastructure.gov.au/aa/releases/2008/July/AA092_20...

Show of force

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 17:27.

The proposed shutdown is lacking two major factors for success. Unity and TWU. Irrespective of my opinion on this matter, I believe a successful show of force must revolve around unity and to hear Mr Patels percentage figures I am dumbfounded as to how he came to this when the union is not supporting it!! I am involved in a small transport company that is not stopping on Sunday night, but listen to the facts why.... Our head carrier is one of Australia's biggest transport companies, but they are a unionised workforce. All of the workforce in our area is unionised. Except our company........and I dont want anything to do with unions, but if the union supported this we would park them up and Mr Patels figures would be reached and exceeded and you wouldn't need to park them up for two weeks!!! A show of force would only take a couple of days!! UNITY

YOU SHOULD READ THIS FELLAS

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 19:52.

SAFER PAYMENT SYSTEMS FOR HEAVY VEHICLE DRIVERS

The National Transport Commission (NTC) will investigate and report on driver remuneration and payment methods in the Australian trucking industry and make recommendations for reform.

The NTC will be assisted by Professor Michael Quinlan of UNSW and the Hon Lance Wright QC, the former president of the NSW Industrial Relations Commission.

The NTC will report by November 2008, and the report will be considered by the Australian Transport Council (ATC - Commonwealth, State and territory transport ministers). Working with the ATC, the Government's objective is to implement these reforms in the context of changes to national road transport regulation and the introduction of the new workplace relations system.

The trucking industry prides itself on being highly competitive and efficient. However, the industry's strength can also be its weakness, with truck drivers often finding themselves in a weak bargaining position and unable to maintain safe work practices.

This is especially so at a time when hard-working trucking companies and owner-drivers, who deliver essential food and supplies to supermarket shelves every day, have been hit hard by rising global fuel prices.

The report will examine how current methods and rates of pay for heavy vehicle drivers contribute to poor road safety outcomes, and will identify options for implementing a system of safe rates for both employees and owner-drivers, recognising the special vulnerabilities of independent contractors in the transport industry.

From 2000-2004, one in five road deaths involved heavy vehicles, with speed and fatigue widely acknowledged to be significant factors. During recent years several reports have also linked unsafe work practices in the trucking industry to road accidents.

The investigation follows on from an agreement between Commonwealth, state and territory transport ministers on February 29 concerning the need for a coordinated national transport plan. The NTC was requested to review and make recommendations relating to truck driver pay and remunerations methods.

The Government notes that addressing this matter touches on developments in Commonwealth and State regulations relating to transport and road safety, workplace relations, occupational health and safety and the legislative frameworks for employees and independent contractors.

The Government is committed to working with the transport industry, unions and other stakeholders to improve road safety for Australian families, ensure a fair go for both employees and owner-drivers, and sustain the long-term viability of the trucking industry.

Today's announcement continues the Government's heavy vehicle reform process and complements other safety initiatives, including:

Implementing news laws to limit heavy vehicle driver fatigue and excessive speed; and
A $70 million safety and productivity package which will fund the trial of black box technologies that monitor driving hours and speed as well as the construction of more rest areas along the nation's highways.

http://www.minister.infrastructure.gov.au/aa/releases/2008/July/AA092_20...

people who care about our future have to stand together

Submitted by Von Curtis (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 19:23.

All the signs are there that the Australian government and corporations want to wipe out small farmers and small businesses and force Australia into an Asian Pacific Union like the EU. Immigrants will come in from Asia and take our jobs and businesses. Both sides of government have this 'great' view. We do not have a democracy - they tell us what is good for us. The government will use police against us to stop us from having our say.

Better Way

Submitted by Cannot Afford This (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 12:50.

I fully understand what all of us truckies are going through. Things are very tough for us. We have a small business and run 8 trucks, I do not agree with this strike at all. I think that this is going to get ugly and alot of other small businesses like ours will be affected. We want the government to hear us not hurt other small businesses already hurting.
Why don't we block off Canberra where all the public servants are situated and then maybe something will happen?
I don't know the answer, I wish I did, but please don't take it out on other businesses that are hurting as well.
I also beg this not ot get violent.
Take Care all of you

Stand up and stay united

Submitted by Von Curtis (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 15:18.

I don't know what the answer is either but the bubble has burst - corporations , banks and governments have been making way too much money out of thin air for way to long ,not producing anything as a quote I read says " $750 trillion in "fictitious capital" that's the monopoly money the Lords of Capital have been playing with to become "notionally" richer and richer represents 15 times the gross domestic product (GDP) of all countries on Earth, including more than $500 trillion in derivatives and other "notional" instruments."
As the whole huge mess unwinds big business and governments will keep pushing down on small farmers and small business operators to keep their life styles and their incomes.
We have to make an attempt to fight back for our lives because they will flatten us if we don't do something.
The financial system is way out of whack , values all have to fall , I read somewhere 30 to 40 per cent in the US.
I don't know how this is going to come about. Bush would like to start WW3 in Iran to divert attention to the mess - I hope that doesn't happen.

TRUCKIE POEM

Submitted by TRACEY PETERSON PETERSON TRANSPORT PTY LTD (not verified) on Wed, 23/07/2008 - 20:17.

THIS WILL BE THE DAY THAT I DIE !!
A POEM FOR THE TRUCKIN INDUSTRY
OWNER DRIVERS
BY TRACEY PETERSON

A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How Trucking used to make me smile.
And I could make a living once
And make my payments all at once
And, maybe, keep me happy for a while.

But now truck driving makes me shiver
With every load that I deliver.
Bad news on my ME doorstep ;
and i just cant handle it ..

I can't remember if I cried
About this crazy rego hike,
But something touched me deep inside
The day that transport died.

So bye-bye, now I'm not that truckie guy.
Drove my trucks to the dump,
With a tear in my eye.
And them round table members were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Postin', "this'll be the day that I die.
"this'll be the day that I die."

by Tracey Peterson
Peterson Transport PTY LTD

I know who needs to wake up!

Submitted by Chris taylor (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 20:44.

What disgusting uneducated comments you make about an industry you have obviously had nothing to do with and if you have driven or even owned, well shame on you. I joined the industry 6 years ago very green and had lots to learn.Now I have seen both sides two things shit me to tears.People who have never driven but still think they have the right to comment on something they couldn't possibly know anything about(I call you experts),and the general lack of appreciation and understanding from the public.Since the first day of my driving career I have never been able to understand the hatred towards the industry from the public.An industry that busts its arse for the public and the country.A country that couldn't give a stuff about its truckies until they threaten to stop and then you bad mouth them.It seems as though upto 60 tonne of truck is meant to behave in the same manner as 1500kg of car. Go back to school and study the laws of physics. Its not POSSIBLE. Thanks australia for supporting the industry that carries 99% of everything you own, and before you comment, purchase a truck and come and join the industry.Put your money where your mouth is.Driver shortage? I wonder why!Accountability should start with you.you would be the first to demand your goods be on time. How dumb!

WOO HOO I AGREE WITH U THIS

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 21:28.

WOO HOO
I AGREE WITH U
THIS GUY REALY JUSTS NEEDS TO HAVE HIS SAY ON ANY DISPUTE THATS RUNNING ..
NO TRUCKS AUSTRALIA STOPS
THERE IS 1 CLOWN IN EVERY CIRCUS

Uneducated? Well please do

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 21:13.

Uneducated?

Well please do enlighten me. (I am not been a smart ass either)

I don't know the industry well. I admit that. But as an outsider it is people like me you will have to win over. You will have to explain.

The biggest part of your battle is to communicate your problems and solutions. And from what I have seen I haven't seen much of either. Just look at the log book issues in the list of demands. You need to play the game that big business and government do- Get yourself some decent PR and communications people.

As an outsider it seriously does look like you guys want more chances than the rest of the population. You are on the road a shit load more though, but people forget that.

People still see truckies as speed (drug)freaks and accidents waiting to happen. I am not saying this is true, in fact I know that is just stupid but there are people out there that think it. This is the battle you guys are fighting.

As for the physics. I am aware of braking distances but the one incident I saw was an unloaded truck doing about 50 and could have broke in time. He went through a red REALLY REALLY late.

I actually cringe and feel sorry for truckies when I see cars zip in front of trucks between lights and effectivly shorten the braking distance. That is stupid on behalf of the car drivers and pisses me off. Just so you know. ;)

People outside the industry do have the right to comment. It is going to effect us just as much when the shit hits the fan. I am probably a lot more open minded then I am been credited for here.

farmers and truckies

Submitted by Von Curtis (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 20:59.

Yes it is amazing we have both been down the bottom of the heap - A country that couldn't give a stuff about its truckies until they threaten to stop and then you bad mouth them. I started feeling this in the '90's farmers being looked down upon - a lot of city people lost touch with reality around that time. Time for a reality check.

Your dreamin'

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 06:49.

Fair enough everyone needs a break from the high prices and costs of living but doing this is just childish.

Seriously think of who you are hurting. Do you want the local shops to do something about your problems? You want to hurt others who are struggling as well, well at least that is how it seems.

Anyway you want everything under the sun and aren't prepared to do any thing about it. Are you going to improve safety and logging? Are you going to improve conditions for yourselves? Are you going to learn to STOP at red lights? Are you going to turn your speedos back to limit you to 100km? The amount of trucks I have seen going faster than 100 lately is just phenomenal.

Think about your target. Who are you hoping to get attention from? It seems you want attention from the people not the government. You want to use ordinary innocent people to do your dirty work. Yeh that will work hold a gun to our heads and see how far you get.

Seriously you guys haven't thought this through have you. It is very flawed. And if you do manage to achieve what you aim to then I don't think you will have much support once it all comes to an end. I will certainly have an unfavourable attitude towards truckies.

I am pro union. I am all for the little guy sticking it to the big guy. I understand life is tough. But take a teaspoon of cement and harden up. This is the age we live in.

Way to break Australia's back guys and gals. Seriously stupid.

extreem governments with disastrous aggendas

Submitted by Von Curtis (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 20:43.

The government are trying to break the rural people and communities. Rudd wants to put Australia into an Asian Pacific Union like the EU. Part of the plan seems to be to turn us into a big export coal mine for China and import food from there.
We would be seriously stupid if we don't make a stand.
Governments in this county have gone mad and bad - its been going on too long - time to make a stand before it is too late.

OMG A TOSSER

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 18:16.

ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT MAKE OUR COUNTRY T HE WAY IT IS TODAY

I BET YOU DONT HAVA BITCH WHEN YOUR NEW HOUSEMATERIALS GOT DELIVED ON A TRUCK
I BET YOU DIDNT KNOW UR FOOD FUEL MEDICAL SUPPLYS AND YOUR BLOODY BEER ARE DELIVERED ON TRUCKS!!!
GET YOUR SUIT BACK ON AND CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK
HOW DARE U BAG TRUCKIES WHO DELIVER M OST OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR LIFE!!!
YOU GET YOUR HOLIDAY PAY YOUR DAYS OFF
YOU DONT HAVFTA WORRK THE ROAD DAY IN DAY OUT AND RISK YOUR LIFE DAILY
YOUR ONLY RISK TO YOUR LIFE NOW IS IF THE TRUCKIES FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE PAL

Well actually, Your the

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 20:52.

Well actually,

Your the tosser buddy.

I understand what the truckies want to do and I do sympathise BUT I am not going to stand here and be threatened by you.

I have family who are in the trucking industry. I grew up in the bush. I know exactly what it is like to go without. I know what a delay means. I know what it is like to be stranded in floods when roads get cut.

But to hold a gun to peoples head and threaten them just like you tried to do to me will not help you.

The fact is you guys have already seriously messed this up. It could have been done so much better. And instead of threatening the very people who could possibly support you (I am actually pro union) you talk to your potential supporters like this.

The list of demands is flaky at best and looks like an attempt to dodge the rule of law regarding logbooks.

Sadly regulation in this area is here to stay and I don't think you will find many people who are willing to budge on this issue. I had a family member killed by a truckie who fudged the figures.

Same goes in the farming industry. You will be able to tell what piece of meat came from what exact cow. But farmers and truckies are NOT the first to come under the scrutiny that is regulation.

The sense is regulation is like this. If you have done nothing wrong or nothing to hide then you should be able to take the time to fill in the required forms.

Lets not forget the ATU and the ATA do not support this strike.

I am a blue collar worker. I know hard work. I am not some office chump who doesn't know shit. I hate big business. I hate capitalism and I believe in a fair go for all. I cheer for the underdog. I am a true blue aussie but you guys have fucked it all up.

Had you come out and simply said we are getting squeezed from all angles and we are considering striking in protest then that is fair enough. All for it.

But to come out and say this

"Transport company owner Peter Schuback said the stoppage would show the public what would happen if the industry were to collapse. "On day three of the stoppage shops will run out of food, on day four service stations will run out of petrol, on day five we will run out of drinkable water," he added.

is inflammatory, threatening and well frankly irresponsible.

Who exactly are you aiming you action at. The people of Australia or the governments? I think your current communication is directed at the people. And as long as I feel like your action is in protest to something I did then you have no sympathy from me.

Your not going to hurt the government. You are hurting small business, local corner shops, the disadvantaged and poor, young families and the elderly.

Everyone is feeling the squeeze. Not just you. And for your information you are going to be directly hurting me. I am a low income earner (less than 30K) who lives week to week and I CAN'T afford to go out and stock up like the rich fuckers can.

So stop fucking stereotyping and think about your actions. Consider the consequences. People could loose their job over this and I can just see scum labour coming in. I can see the shit fight. Could be huge but not with attitudes like yours.

Another one who feels that

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 28/07/2008 - 14:01.

Another one who feels that they have all the answers!! The ATU ect have had plenty of time to deal with many of the issues and have not made a difference WHICH IS WHY THE STOPPAGE IS HAPPENING!
Every avenue has been taken with no results.

Targeting Governments that won't listen

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 23/07/2008 - 17:25.

I understand your thoughts but the reality is that the shutdown needs to happen for the media and government ministers to even take notice. The campaign has been running for some time now but the media like the government officials we are targeting haven't been interested in talking to our representatives until this last week. There is something to be said for trucking associations working with Government ministers to relay members concerns with regards to transport policy but I genuinely believe that they have lost touch with the grass roots of the industry. How are we at the grass roots to be heard when our associations have lost touch!

I have ties to both the agricultural and trucking industries. The transport minister has been encouraging truckies to pass on their costs to the client. Not all of us can do that and for some of us that provide transport to the agricultural industry how can we continue to pass on these costs to already suffering industry - hard hit by the drought and cost-price-squeeze. Australian agriculture produces 93% of this country's food. Realistically we can't afford to be importing all our food. The carbon emmissions trading is going to hit agriculture around the world hard. There is already a world food shortage. We can't afford to lose our agricultural industry. State Governments are doubling trucking registrations in the next three years. Unless we do something we will be forced to pass this onto our clients who simply can't afford the constant increasing prices.

please refrain from using the

Submitted by from your mother (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 21:35.

please refrain from using the f word
all this does is prove to us all that your a .....?
someone else can fill it in if they wish

bloody australian

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 22:47.

bloody australian

A SUITED TRY HARD

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 23/07/2008 - 15:35.

A SUITED TRY HARD

Oh yeh I forgot to add

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 22/07/2008 - 06:58.

Oh yeh I forgot to add this.

You want LESS ACCOUNTABILITY!!

Road Transport Shutdown 2008 List of Demands
Sun, 05/11/2008 - 17:39 — Mick Pattel

This list of demands have been passed by the meeting in Townsville on the 24th of May 2008, the additions 16,17, were added at Toowoomba Meeting 14th June 2008
Not Negotiable

1. Disbanding of the National Transport Commission immediately.
2. No electronic recording systems, or work dairies.
3. No changes in the present log book format.
4. No demerit points on log books, or driving hours regulations.
5. Recoupment of demerit points for professional drivers who earn their living from their licence to be reduced to 12 months not the existing 36 months.
6. No penalty to drivers exceeding prescribed driving time when attempting to reach a vacant heavy vehicle rest area or when marginally over driving hours in compliance with defacto hours proposed under the new NTC ruling for all drivers irrespective of participation of fatigue management programs, and in any case ‘reasonable defence’ is to apply where compliance is not possible.
7. All fines for logbook breaches to be capped at an agreed fixed amount and relate to safety breaches only.
8. All fines and loss of demerit points for logbook breaches to be rescinded, fines and points to be reimbursed, all licences lost as a result of this legislation to be reinstated to previous status.
9. No increases or changes in registration charges for any truck or bus over 4 tonnes, charges to be set in concrete at current levels.
10. No increase or indexation of fuel excise.
11. No fuel based carbon charges or taxes.
12. No changes or variations to the Federal Fuel Energy Grants Scheme or to the State Bulk End User Rebates both of these are to remain in place indefinitely.
13. Authorities to endorse a driver intercept report sheet to create a reporting system to identify rude and unethical enforcement officers.
14. Main Roads Authorities in all States to construct and maintain all weather road train termination pads of adequate size.
15. A priority funded program to provide all weather heavy vehicle rest areas that are designed to provide adequate parking and amenities for the different truck trailer configurations according to truck traffic density.
16. That the log book period be changed from any 24 hour period to midnight to midnight on any calendar day.
17. That an inspection by an officer of either Queensland Transport or the Queensland Police Service of a drivers log book cannot be inspected past 14 days prior to the interception date.

standing united

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 18/07/2008 - 21:53.

I do hope 80% and more truckies support the stand down. Many farmers support the truckies - because we are also getting regulated to death.
We have been told many many lies. I first started really noticing the huge lies a few years ago when I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job.

I am a owner driver for the

Submitted by John Nangle (not verified) on Fri, 18/07/2008 - 18:24.

I am a owner driver for the last 25 years. The fuel rises are ripping this industy apart. That is unless you are one of the big players,getting the reasonable rates and not passing them onto the subbies without taking out large amounts. Lets all unite and stay home and show them,as well as the governments that we are a force to be reckoned with. Not just some cash cow or football to be kicked around. Stand United

I am a interstate driver, and

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 13/07/2008 - 21:12.

I am a interstate driver, and I say United we stand divided we fall.

wife of a truckie

Submitted by tasha (not verified) on Tue, 15/07/2008 - 19:06.

how can people justify in this day and age being off work. trust me i know this is really important but some people cant afford to be off the road. my husband supports me and my 3 week old son at the moment by doing the k's on the road.

im happy some people will make a stand but not everyone can.

and as for the rumors that are going around about if your truck is on the road it is going to be vandilised and the drivers hurt is a bit much! try making a stand for the people who cant afford to stop but dont play games.

What Happens if you don't stop

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 21/07/2008 - 18:52.

I know some people think they can't stop because they will lose everything but if you don't stop and help to support the cause then it would not be just you loosing everything but 1000s of other people. I do know where you are coming from, we own 12 trucks and I know that stopping will be risky but not stopping won’t because we will not have to worry about risky anymore because it will be a certainly that we will not be able to compete against the government and will have to shut the gates.

I fully understand where you

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 19/07/2008 - 16:22.

I fully understand where you are coming from as my partner supports a family of 5. BUT this strike is important and I have been lucky enough to be able to stock up on extras over the last few weeks, even if the truckies who are struggling can strike for a few days it will help make a difference. I honestly believe that after a few days the public will kick up a stink over the empty shelves etc. If possible try and support them as this is the only way we will be able to make the government and authorities understand the pressure they are putting us under. If this doesnt work I think it will have to be highway blockades to make our point coz at this rate it would be cheaper to keep them home with us. Many dont understand how many km's these guys have to do each week to support their families and I do not know 1 trucking family who lives the high life, we all have the basics and that is about it.

Reply to wife of a truckie

Submitted by Russell Borchard (not verified) on Tue, 15/07/2008 - 20:02.

Tasha
I do understand your concern and i must defend the NRTF as we do not support any actions of vandalism or harrasment of any kind being placed on drivers that choose to work, anyone that supports the NRTF have been urged to stay at home with their familys,

I will say though that if people dont make a stand and stay at home they are effectively telling the government that they agree with the new rules and regulations as well as the huge fines and rego increases, no i can afford this as i am an ownerdriver myself but short term pain will lead to long term gain. We need to do this to make a better future for all of australia.

reply to russell borchard

Submitted by tasha (not verified) on Wed, 16/07/2008 - 22:10.

its fair enough for people to make a stand. we all agree on that. its just the point that at the end of the day a driver who has a wife and a 4 week old son at home living from pay check to pay check cant afford to not eat or pay bills! i know if someone doesnt make a stand then it is just going to get worse but at the moment some people cant afford it!

i wish we could afford to make a stand but we just cant justify doing it that way. making a stand in local publications ect is what we are doing to try and get some attention to the issues! dont think that everyone isnt wanting to be a part of this because it just isnt true.

i wish my husband would see his newly born son but to make ends meet he needs to be behind the wheel.

I hear you, there would not

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 23/07/2008 - 16:35.

I hear you, there would not be a truckie out there that can afford to pull up but the way I look at it we are fighting for our demerit points because without our licences we are out of work anyway. We only get 4 cracks at it and we can loose our licences. And I dont think there would be too many professional drivers that had 12 points to start with and to wait three bloody years is crap. Especially when there is so many petty officers out there that think writing a phone number on the front of your log book is defacing gov. property, which afine and loss of three demerits point. I can what a major safety issue that is or spelling Rockhampton like Rocky. Yep major safety issues. The demerit point in theory was a good idea to try stop company and drivers breaking the law but it really needs to be refined where is only a loss of points for exceeding driving hours excessivly. That is why I support the stopage the public needs to understand the industry. The normal 9 to 5 worker doesnt get penilized for putting in a couple more hours and they could easily go out onto the highway tired and cause a fatal crash. An office worker doesn't loss demerit points for spelling mistakes the wrong date etc and that is what is happening out there.

I agree the public think this

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 25/07/2008 - 15:26.

I agree the public think this stoppage is about fuel prices, but little do they know about our log books, demerit points, load restaints,rego's and fuel excise. I actually spoke to someone (shop owner) today who had no idea about this and was absolutely dumb founded that police could actually book someone $600 and 3 points for not drawing a line on the page of his log book. They're behaving like the german gestapo he replied.These issues really need to be addressed. If nothing is done about it I too am on the verge of leaving this industry. Just hand in my keys and walk away. Been in the business 20 years, I've had enough. Maybe that's what they (the Government) want us (small owner drivers) to do and have big trucking conglomerates the monopoly of running this country. All I want is to be able to pay my bills and put food on the table for my family. Oh and every 2 years or so go on holidays......

please don't hand in your keys

Submitted by Von Curtis (not verified) on Sun, 27/07/2008 - 08:33.

The public do think it is about fuel they don't understand that it is more about log books, demerit points, load restaints,rego's and fuel excise.
They would have no idea about the gestapo attitude and methods of the revenue collecting State machine people.
Stand up and be proud of yourself , don't let the big city dictators look down on you as a lesser person 'cos you are not earning huge money. The ruthless system that we have does want to wipe out small operators like us in order to cut costs and push up profits, share prices and dividends.
I'm afraid to say it appears we are heading to a money hungry facist state run by governments in bed with transnational mining and other corporations and the little people can either be slaves , on social security or lie down and die.
BUT we will ROAR instead , change the set-up and have our say.

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