What rights do we have against DOCS

Could anyone tell me do DOCS have the right to enter your home. What are our rights or do we have any. They take notes, are we entitled to record our conversation? How come there is two of them and they do not even give you an option to have a support person? Any info would be greatly appreciated. These people are thugs and bullies.

Rights. I'll Post more later if you request.

This is just a taster, but be very careful how you utilise the ACT. As an adult touch a Police Officer that is assault. You must study the ACT which is on the Child Safety website. I ahve only picked parts and it must be used as a whole. Make Docs explain in full every document. Be very careful what you sign with DOCS. Get a third party to give you advise. One poor guy I talked to in Court has signed every document required and now if he leaves town with his child he will be charged with kidnapping !

For those who are child abusers take a hike. Try to enforce what I am suggesting and you will come unstuck big time. If you have a substance abuse problem or anger management problem etc. seek help. If you are guilty, fighting back is your most stupid error. But go ahead and test it out.

First point is try to talk to DOCS civilly before you become difficult. There has to be many caring workers out there who do a great job. In our town they are idiots plain and simple. TOO YOUNG And inexperienced.
Now they are trying to cover up. So much for putting children first !

Try to negotiate AND STAY CALM but record everything just in case. They write it down at DOCS offices and change the meanings of your statements if they are vindictive. Take pen and paper as well. Who cares if you tie them up and make them work overtime. Do not let them rush you. Your child's well being is paramount. Vexatious wives with a break-up can create chaos by making false claims. This is common. You have to keep a paper trail of everything.

At our local DOCS office I can prove someone/s within are involved with a group of sexual abusers who made allegations against ourselves to cover their own abuse. The child abusers can manipulate DOCS so easily. I will not show you how as I am sure degenerates will monitor this site. I will not endanger any other children.

This is for those like myself who are caught up with DOCS workers who are acting outside of their guidelines for whatever motives. In my case this includes persons just out of nappy's; kids who have no experience in life and quite frankly no intellect. Our universities have a lot to answer for. They are reacting to malicious persons who they give absolute credibility without investigation. They will not question their masters even if they are Child Abusers.

TO DOCS YOU ARE GUILTY AND HAVE TO PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE. THIS IS THE HARD PART. FOR THOSE WITH NO MONEY IT WILL BE A BATTLE THAT CAN GO ON FOR YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. YOU NEED SOME SORT OF PROFESSIONAL REPORT AT MINIMUM. You need to at minimum talk to a legal aid officer.

Also reply registered mail to every phone call or contact you get with DOCS. Just listen to your tape. Very simple. Just respond I confirm the pertinent facts each time. Don't trust a word these idiots say. They will change it every time. Let them correct the record if needed. My court documents are so erroneous it beggars belief. I have on tape a DOCS idiot (20 year old) saying one thing and he changes it in the court document suggesting evil motives. I have 7 witnesses also. Affidavits are critical from your witnesses so you can introduce the evidence into court. or bring them in to testify.

ENFORCE THE WORD ALLEGATION IN COURT DOCUMENTS. They write the court documents as if you are already convicted. My own are disgracefull.

1st thing is to get a digital tape recorder. My experience to date is they change the facts so often you need everything recorded. Just tape them, don't ask, then transcribe all the important facts to paper.

By the time you get in court you'll be astounded how they rewrite the events.

Section 9 of the Act is critical. Note IT IS IMMATERIAL HOW THE HARM IS DONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DOCS are not exempt.

9 What is harm
(1) Harm, to a child, is any detrimental effect of a significant
nature on the child’s physical, psychological or emotional
wellbeing.
(2) It is immaterial how the harm is caused.
(3) Harm can be caused by—
(a) physical, psychological or emotional abuse or neglect;
or
(b) sexual abuse or exploitation.

Now for those who are innocent, and suffering because of incompetence or just plain vindictiveness read Part .2. The legislation is good and is protective of children. DOCS just don't get it and ACT contrary to the purpose. many who read this will agree.

Part 2 Purpose and administration of
Act
4 Purpose of Act
The purpose of this Act is to provide for the protection of
children.
5 Principles for administration of Act
(1) This Act is to be administered under the principle that the
welfare and best interests of a child are paramount.
Example—
The chief executive is making a decision under this Act, concerning a
child, in circumstances where there is a conflict between the child’s
welfare and best interests and the interests of an adult caring for the
child. The conflict must be resolved in favour of the child’s welfare and
best interests. (Best interests is where you are better off) \

(2) Subject to subsection (1), this Act is also to be administered
under the following principles—
(a) every child has a right to protection from harm; (From DOCS)

(b) families have the primary responsibility for the
upbringing, protection and development of their
children; (Remember this one Ellie)

(c) the preferred way of ensuring a child’s wellbeing is
through the support of the child’s family; (And this one)

(d) powers conferred under this Act should be exercised in a
way that is open, fair and respects the rights of people
affected by their exercise, and, in particular, in a way
that ensures— (Huge. Docs never read this.)

(i) actions taken, while in the best interests of the
child, maintain family relationships and are
supportive of individual rights and ethnic, religious
and cultural identity or values; and

(ii) the views of the child and the child’s family are
considered; and
s 6 19 s 6

Child Protection Act 1999
(iii) the child and the child’s parents have the
opportunity to take part in making decisions
affecting their lives;

(e) if a child does not have a parent able and willing to
protect the child, the State has a responsibility to protect
the child, but in protecting the child the State must not
take action that is unwarranted in the circumstances;

(The parent would die for the child. DOCS goes to bed after work.)

(f) if a child is removed from the child’s family—
(i) the aim of authorised officers’ working with the
child and the child’s family is to safely return the
child to the family if possible; and
(ii) the child’s need to maintain family and social
contacts, and ethnic and cultural identity, must be
taken into account; and
(iii) in deciding in whose care the child should be
placed, the chief executive must give proper
consideration to placing the child, as a first option,
with kin;
(g) a child should be kept informed of matters affecting him
or her in a way and to an extent that is appropriate,
having regard to the child’s age and ability to
understand;
(h) if a child is able to form and express views about his or
her care, the views must be given consideration, taking
into account the child’s age or ability to understand;
(i) if a child does not have a parent able and willing to give
the child ongoing protection, the child has a right to
long-term alternative care.

Your children can resist being taken. If they are older and just want to come home, doing a runner is in your favour so don't fret at all. DOCS hate working after knock off and weekends. The poor police have to run around after DOCS stuff ups.

Note Chapter .6

Chapter 6 Enforcement and legal
proceedings
Part 1 Offences
160 Obstruction of authorised officer etc.
(1) A person must not obstruct an authorised officer or police
officer in the exercise of a power under this Act, unless the
person has a reasonable excuse.
Maximum penalty—40 penalty units.
(2) However, a child does not commit an offence against
subsection (1) merely because the child resists being taken
into custody under this Act for the child’s protection or being
moved to a safe place under section 21.

Note reasonable excuse !

Older children can resist. My child help up 1 guy for an hour and a half.

A police officer intervened. The Police to date I have had no problems with.

The Police officer sated "it was ridiculous and the DOCS officer was just traumatising our child.) She intervened. My child did a second runner and disapeared for 3 days. DOCS relented and allowed her to stay with family in the end. Overtimes a bitch !

Write to the Ombudsman, CMC, every politician you can find. LETS FORCE A ROYAL COMMISSION INTO THESE IDIOTS IN NAPPY'S.

We Have Won !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Girls Back

7 weeks of hell.

The first 3 days they were trying to get me on a charge where I would face a life sentence for something I didn't do. I only realised this after the fact. It is now known, these sexual deviates nearly gained custody of both girls thanks to DOCS. (Department of Complete Stupidity.)

The police dropped it within a few days to their credit. DOCS wouldn't let go for the entire 7 weeks.

A 100% victory. The new Uni Grad still hung on in their final meeting refusing her bosses request to run the meeting (3 times). The Team leader was professional in the end. (A bit late !)

Court revoked orders. Solicitor still didn't trust them (Their pull out that is.) so we paid the most well spent $700 to have a magistrate revoke regardless.

THE DEPARTMENT HAS AGREED THE ABUSERS WERE THE SHOP MY DAUGHTER WORKED AT, INCLUDING A STILL EMPLOYED SENIOR TEACHER WHO RUNS IT ! Well done Education Queensland !

Child abusers can manipulate this system at will, but the fight is coming from a different angle now. 2 weeks rest and we attack.

DOCS & Me

Whoa!!! That is an awful lot of info that you have, or should I say ammo? Sounds like you got the guns to fight them too. I have too had my own dilema with this department of fruitcakes. In Nov 2004, 2 months after my marriage broke down and got my own place, I was wrapping xmas presents for my 2 daughters then aged 6 & 8. My oldest was with her Dad on this particular day and little one with me. A knock at the door its the Scan team!!! They are here to investigate an allegation of physical abuse.... They interview me, tell me to continue parenting the way I have been and they will be in touch advised that they will have to interview the little one (as it was the oldest and her father that made the allegation) I offered them an interview immediatley as this was an absurd situation I found myself in as I never even smacked my girls, EVER. The little one told them much of the same as I the truth. I rec'd a call at my work to advise all allegations were "unsustantiated, and to go on and have a wonderful christmans with my daughters. You will receive a letter in the mail but dont expect it before christmas as this is a goverment department and things move a little slowly" End of story right, wrong! December 2004 through unitl May 2005 My ex hung onto the girls I had to go to court to get and order to allow me to see them a regular periods of time and in particular Mothers day, ex's solicitor passes up a letter from docs substantiating me of physical harm to the eldest and both of us for emotional harm to the youngest. Pretty much that was game over. This letter from docs held its place until final orders were made, my only thing to cling to was that I had fought docs so far that I rec'd a written apology for there inabilitiy to inform me of their findings and had the substantiation dropped to sustantiated risk. WHATEVER!!! To little to late my daughters school was advised of this letter and even find it hard to go there, but I do and hold me head high as I just hope one day people will see the father for who he is. I should also point out that this allegation was made with a photo of a bruise the size of a 20 cent piece on the buttock, and this was from my opening and closing a door on her and the handle had repeatedly hit her in the bottom. I am yet to see an 8 year old who's bottom is level with a regular bedroom door. Docs couldn't give a crap about that...
Where are we supposed to go? I obviously have issues with the father encouraging the eldest to lie about me, now including sexual harrassment by my fiancee at least twice and furhter abuse by myself and the other daughter can never back her stories. from a broken mother

Vrey Important DOCS are not exempt from liability

NOTE HONESTLY AND WITHOUT NEGLIGENCE. In time I will be utilising this with the force of a hurricane ! I have a full paper trail.

197 Protection from liability
(1) An official, does not incur civil liability for an act done, or
omission made, honestly and without negligence under this
Act.
(2) If subsection (1) prevents a civil liability attaching to an
official, the liability attaches instead to the State.
(3) In this section—
official means—
(a) the chief executive; or
(b) an authorised officer or police officer; or
(c) a person acting under the direction of a person
mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b); or
(d) a member of the SCAN system or a representative of a
member.

To the above

Well said to the reply.
Unfortunately DOCS know that most don't have money to get a decent Lawyer and this is where the problem lies.

!/ Yes if they steal your kids and your kids are old enough and even if they put them to temporary foster care (((Dole bludgers that cant find work, mainly women that are forced to look for work after their last child has reached a specified age so foster caring is the easy way out))) they can run away as many times as they like. Create HAVOC for the CHILD STEALER foster carers and that alone will create a headache for DOCS..
I personally know one case where a 14 year old boy and his young 9 year old brother were removed by a false allegation by DOCS which was made by a school pupil and the two were put in separate foster care. After five days the two were allowed to talk over the phone and the address was revealed by the younger boy and the older brother told his child stealing foster carers to piss off you cant force me to stay here and then proceeded to where his brothers was forced to stay.
He charged through the door, the child stealer's grabbed his brother and refused to let him go (otherwise they would have to look for work if they had no one to foster care). The 14 year old got desperate and spotted a VERY LARGE plasma TV and grabbed it and buried it into the ground and continues doing with other equipment.
They quickly let the 9 year old boy go and both charge out of the house never to be seen again (Possibly interstate)

2/ Always have a witness with you, DO NOT EVER TRUST THOSE BITCHES!!!!!!! Refuse to meet with them without a Legal representative or a good close friend that has his or her wits about them and if you do bring a friend with you they will try to ask your friend to remove him or herself (Bully tactics) out of the interview room and if this happens WALK OUT!!.
3/ NEVER EVER EVER SIGN anything full STOP until you get legal advice
4/ NEVER talk to them over the phone as this is their preferable way of intimidating you and if you do and they ring you say hang on I am in a hurry can I ring you back in say 1 to whatever hours and in this time get a respectable person like your family Doctor or say a Justice of the peace to overhear the conversation over an open phone call (ring DOCS from the Doctors or whoever s phone if the have an unlisted number). I DID IT WITH 3 Separate witnesses in the room and the other two just happened to be there as a bonus. They were all shocked what they heard!
5/ Always ask them to put anything they want on paper with an official letterhead, they don't like leaving a paper trail, trust me I know.
6/ You have to be smart with them, they invented the word and the art of LYING and you have to be one step ahead of them to catch them out.

At a later date I will be adding the Do's and don't when dealing with this monster of a department on this and another site that is visible to the public. We need to educate the public, I have a list a mile long and I hope others will add to it.
Keep it up the top of GOOGLE Admin, people Google for the Dept of Child Safety and what they find is this site and others. Someone has told me about a site that says nothing but has record hits for that site, someone must be reading and waiting for the shit to hit the fan.
http://www.aus-city.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=12

to overhear the conversation over an open phone call

This is illegal if docs don't know that they are listening in- use a digital wav recorder approx. $149 from dicksmith you can get recording devices cheaper- try ebay.

extra to above

it is legal to tape a conversation as it could be for your own personal use ie. personal notes.

That ad, I am sick of it.

By now we have all seen that ad from the Department of Child Safety and the Queensland government looking for foster carers.
I have been told this before and I was only told this again yesterday that the Department of child safety's biggest problem is they haven't got enough foster carers when they steal your children. See as all you should know DOCS can only keep your children after they steal them for a maximum of 8 hours at the original office and if they cannot find any foster carers they have no choice but to return the children home or to another relative, but what we have now is a campaign by the government to generate a new breed of foster carers and the ones I am targeting are the new Centrelink foster carers. The reason why I bring this up as some of you mothers out there know, there were changes last year on July 1st where once your last child is over 7 years of age, you have to look for paid work, no more sponging on the system. Now we all know people don't like work, so this is the easy way out for them, becoming a foster carer, so they don't have to look for work. How disgraceful this is. We are going to have a new generation of foster carers that are only caring so that they don't have to look for work and these are the ones that the Department of child stealers will be sending your kids to when they steal them. This is a fact and this will happen within the next few months, that once there is a notification regardless if its false or not and especially if you argue and don't comply with them, they will steal your children, preferably from school and send them to the temporary foster carers.
In simple terms, the Department of child safety did not have enough cages to put the birds in before and when they caught a bird, they didn't know what to do with it, but after this new ad campaign, they will have plenty of cages and they will be approved after inspection from the department of child safety and they will go on their merry way in child stealing.

 

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