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National Road Transport Forum 2008
Submitted by NRTF on Tue, 01/07/2008 - 13:11
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On the 28/07/2008 all modes of road transport will cease to offer any freight services until the Government meets the demands from the forums held around the country.
This shutdown is designed to have 'Minimum impact on the community with Maximum effect on Government'.
Strikes effects all gropu of transporters to varying degree
Strikes should be 'Minimum impact on the community with Maximum effect on Government' but very often reverse reaction is seen. Reality is not that good and positive.
To all of the above........!
Hi all i am a meat carter and drive a truck just want to comment on a couple of comments i read.
1. To the wanker who hopes diesel will go to $3.00 a litre. How much do you pay for lets say a piece of rump steak what $6-$7 well looky here if diesel was to jump to $3.00 a litre you would then pay $12 to $14 for that same piece of crap meat that gets draged across the floor left out of the butchers cool room for half the day and then once you see it on display in the show case a week after i deliver it and it sits in your fridge for 2 to 3 days before you cook it how good do you recon it would taste. Please reply would love to hear from you.
2.To the subject on the strike.
I must admit i do not pay for the fuel that goes into my truck as it is a company truck but at the same time after talking to many truckies who do pay for their fuel can totaly see where they are comming from as there is so many trucks out there and thier all fighting for the same job.
3. Funny that about Global warming there is aprox 100 cars to a truck on the road.
Yes trucks do use more fuel than a car BUT when you look into the facts on SO CALLED global warming it is actually cooler now than it has been for the past 70 years.
Or maybe your just so hot headed you can't feel the change. YA TOSSER.
4.Yeh always wondered why when i pulled up to a truck stop why the little cars where parked so far away from my truck.
But now i have worked it out.
It's because people like you who comes across as the sort of human who would lay in front of a truck in protest and act as a speed hump.
Come lay in front of my truck. I DARE YOU.
Oh what a hero you are, bet
Oh what a hero you are, bet you are a fat slob who has never done a hard days work in your life. Any fool can drive a truck, look how many are already.
Any fool can drive a truck
Any fool can drive a truck mmmmmm...who's the fool, let me tell you it takes great skill to drive a truck on these roads in this country. You have to have your mind on the job all the time, sadly it is people like you who see our hard working truckies as less than important, without these dedicated men and women you and people like you would live a far less comfortable life style. Most things in this country are transport by road, if any fool can driver a truck why is it so hard to find truck drivers these days. I have a small transport company and right now I am having great difficulty in finding a driver and why because the Government and the people of this country do not see the necessity to support and protect the Transport Industry and drivers and Owner drivers are leaving the industry in droves. So next time you reach for your breakfast cereal enjoy it because if this keeps up it won't be long before there is no transport Industry and you and I will have no food, no clothes no anything. So wake up Australia and start supporting instead of knocking you Transport Industry before it is tooooooo late.
Yes I agree with you, this
Yes I agree with you, this bloke has no idea on the skills needed to drive a truck or the pressures involved. I borrowed $300,000 to buy a Kenworth T908 and due to the payments to the bank drive up to 20 hours a day and overload to earn a living.To stay awake I have resorted to amphetamines and to get to sleep because I am so hypo I smoke marijuana . To cover the extra kays of a day I have disconnected the speed limiter and can sit on 120 on the flat and get up to 140 off the hills. I am sick of police harassment and safety cams and stupid motorists in cars who insist on sitting on the speed limit forcing me to tailgate them. This country would not exist without truckies like me
take another tablet
take another tablet
I am wondering why such
I am wondering why such strikes happen? I think they are nothing other than a shit.
bastard tpt companies
these tpt companys that continually put their trucks out on the road when they are not in mechanically A1 condition need their necks wrung and i hope u are exposed as the ignorant selfish money hungry pricks that you are.
is the strike still on, never
is the strike still on, never seemed to affect the Hume at all. Seemed to be a bit of waste of time and may have got the public offside.I hope diesel goes to $3.00 a liter, might force a bit of the riff Raff out
You moron
Did you think before you wrote that.$3.00 a litre would stuff this country,and tell me, anyone would think the public owns transport.How about we be fair and force out all the riff raff out of every job in australia.Truck drivers may be dumb, but anyone who comments on something they have never done really are scraping the bottom.Those who have voiced uneducated opinions on this site are frequent and should be ashamed. Have a go first because everyone is just giving the industry a spray yet they themselves don't have any constructive solutions to help.Keep mouthing off in your glass houses.You are dumber then any truck driver.
Truthfully.What OP did you get?
National Road Transport Forum 2008
On the 28/07/2008 all modes of road transport will cease to offer any freight services until the Government meets the demands from the forums held around the country.
This shutdown is designed to have 'Minimum impact on the community with Maximum effect on Government.
Strike was never Australia wide....
Strike was only parts of Queensland.....
Strike has not affected the Government...
What demands? I see NO demands........
******* STRIKE IS OFF ********
Come off it!
Lots of professions have tight and STRICT government regulations and there are good reasons for those regulations being put in place! And guess what, in part they are for YOU THE DRIVERS own damn safety!! But instead of even trying to see COMMON SENSE in these regulations you cry hard done by!!! And guess what....you were all crying hard done by before this too!! Its always you people saying POOR ME POOR ME, well heres a revelation: your not the hardest done by profession or the hardest workers and you deserve NO MORE RESPECT than anyone else. Heres hoping that this failure of a strike/protest that you tried to stage brought you all down a few notches. Nobody will give in to your demands and if you hate your job, leave it and hopefully you will be replaced by someone who respects the law and has some decency about them.
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Come off it??????????????
Did you read the stats found down below. It is FACT wether you like it or not, that cars have more accidents per km than trucks. So why don't all you so called experts clean up your own backyard before you voice an opinion that has no substance. Who gives anyone the right to JUDGE when you yourself are not perfect. In 99% of cases with pilots who would be the better pilot.the one who flys 12-14 hours a day,day in and day out or the one who flies 2 hours a day.Same with trucks. Who in their right mind comments on something they have never done anyhow?
So taking into account that car drivers with their low levels of experience in relation to truck drivers, and their proven much higher accident per km rate, I think its only fair that you share the exact same regs as trucks.Log books cover both work and driving and any little mistake you make in your work day gets deducted out of your pay no matter how big or small.Also do you seriously think that we don't want to go home to our families at the end of the day to alive and not dead.Also in your vast experience can you tell me for sure and certain that the new laws WILL reduce ACCIDENTS. DO you know the differences between the old ones and the new ones.DO you also believe the media.
Last of all cars are small and agile and very easy to manouver in comparison to trucks and yet the ACCIDENT PER KM RATE IS HIGHER FOR CARS. Please explain why this is so before you make your expert stance.Besides, hasn't road transport done you very well over the last fifty or so years.
Anyway, I can vision some of the come backs already.All very original and all from non truck drivers.
All those who are experts, we have trucks in the yard ready for you to show the world exactly how its done.I used to say, bloody whinging truck drivers, and I put my money where my mouth is experinced it first hand.Now I know the industry, the ups and the downs and how it works.I would not dare comment on this site if I had never tried the game first.
You have been no help to the ones who try their hardest.Thanks for your support.
Chris
How many people would be
How many people would be killed if a car hit a train?, we have already got the answer when a truck does !!!
Actually chris I do know the
Actually chris I do know the old laws and the new and understand the differences. We own 3 trucks. So thanks for automatically presuming that I must be uninformed but unfortunately you are incorrect. I am sick of the shit that this strike/protest has caused, makes hard working drivers look like idiots. Think about your fellow truck drivers before you take stupid action. Some of us understand the reasoning behind the new rules and regs.
strike
Ha Ha Ha your stupid strike was a failure how foolish you all look now, HA HA HA
I agree with you,did not
I agree with you,did not achieve anything at all other than prove that all of us truck drivers are fools and easily lead
Strike
i have been a truck driver for 30 years now I work for a company and I am happy where i am. maybe some of you can try working for a company maybe you will get much better pay, just an idea, anyway, i am off.
I agree
Yes what a bunch of clowns,lets put it all on the rail and get rid of these dangerous cowboys
I Agree
yeah what a great idea
then maybe all shops,servos,mechanics,everything should be relocated to railways so then you can drive your CAR to the railway for ALL your items
get a life
there are cowboys out there as in all professions
i should know i just quit being a heavy vehicle driving instructor because i was fed up with teaching people who drive CARS the (road rules) as they dont know them
then having to teach the truck components to people who quite frankly shouldnt be on the road
i have my views on what has to be changed in this area but it never will
i am now an owner driver
and in response to someone else here there was a survey done some years ago that proved that truckies were more up to date and attuned to social happenings along with what was going on in the world as they listened to the radio most of the day
Well said ,all freight should
Well said ,all freight should be on the railways to reduce accidents and global warming, small Asians on bikes could deliver from the railway station to peoples homes
Australia is a big country
Australia is a big country with many small towns how are we going to get goods to those towns and I would love to see some little Asian taking a car on his scooter to be delivred. Wake up to yourselves without trucks this country would come to a grinding holt. Sadly if nothing is done to protect the Trasnport Industry from greedy State Governments who see us a revenue and big companies who cream every dollar they can before they pay the subbie who does the job it won't be long before we are going to see just how much we relied on the transport industry for our everyday items. This country is not ready to move things by rail, we do not have the infrastructure to do that so unless you plan to move things by horse and cart it is time to protect and support your Tranport Industry Australia before it is too late and there is no industry left to support
reply to uneducated clown
put it all on rail eh???
u do realize that would have to be the most moronic (or one of the most) opinions on here dont u?
perhaps I should drive a
perhaps I should drive a truck and join all you brain surgeons on channel 40 and spend my whole day saying "copy in the kenworth" and become a complete moron
Have you ever wondered why
Have you ever wondered why they have a separate section at roadhouses for truck drivers,it is so the general public don,t have to put up with fat tattooed drug affected morons in blue singlets who have not showered for 2 weeks and smell like they have crawled out of a sewer.
reply to Have you ever
reply to Have you ever wondered why post.
These road houses were set up mainly for truckies. my family owned a road house , truckies had a seperate area and paid less for there meals. they provided us with more income that the general public. if you dont like them take plenty of food and fuel with you and dont stop at the road houses. Stay in your little cave in the city. By sum bad luck at 2 am on a really dark rainy night your car breaks down 100 / 200 km's from the nearest town, you have no phone coverage. you may see a car every couple of hours, dont wave down a truckie...you just sit in your car and freez to death.
what we dont need in this world is narrow minded people like your-self.
Re: reply to Have you ever
you really should learn to spell
ohgosh
as if some drugged up truckie
as if some drugged up truckie could fix my car, don't make me laugh. Most of them can not do up shoe laces, guess that's why they wear thongs, even in winter.
reply to uneducated clown
put it all on rail eh???
u do realize that would have to be the most moronic (or one of the most) opinions on here dont u?
The brown rat is considered
The brown rat is considered to be a pest throughout most of its range. Still it rarely lives in occupied houses or buildings but, rather, makes its home in areas uninhabited by people. The brown rat inhabits all parts of the world populated by humans and breeds rapidly in colonies located in sewers and garbage dumps. It arrived in the Americas by way of ships belonging to early European explorers and settlers.
Are you for real?..How dare
Are you for real?..How dare you insinuate that truckies should tolerate such diabolic comments from a poor misguided creature like you. Do you live in a house or under a rock? How do you think all the building materials get to the building sites?...and I suppose you are one of those intelligent people from the Lavatory Latte Set in the city that think the meat just happened to appear in the Supermarket fridges. Grow a brain and don't put all truck drivers in the catergory of dangerous cowboys.
strikie
ha ha ha if there is a strike on then tell me why I keep seeing trucks, trucks and trucks on the road.
Oh and those in Western Australia called strike of before it started, ha ha ha, weak bastards
strike
yeah way too funny, the so called strike did nothing, it was amusing for the stupid dumb arse drivers who constantly break the laws.
get a real job losers
Strike is about being Underpaid
This truck strike is about drivers working for poor quality pay, it has nothing to do with the rising fuel cost.
Truck Drivers need a pay increase.
Strike is about being Underpaid
OH !!!
But I was too believe those on strike are (Owner Drivers), one would think that all owner-drivers would set there own fees and pay.
All you got to do is let those know that you work for a set amount of money, if you all agree on the fee then everyone will get the same, you do not transport goods unless the fee is met.
So all owner-drivers need to work out a fee and set it up, as I do not see much talk about it on this forum.
So what fee would everyone be happy with?
Breaka breaka
Truck Drivers
I have just come across this forum, and to tell you the truth. I find a lot of comments from truck drivers to be rude and of poor quality.
The truck drivers are saying it's not about the fuel, then why did thhe media say "When Diesel hit $2 then truck drivers are going on strike". I am aware that it is not $2 and that you are on strike.
You have a forum here, then tell people why your on strike instead of letting them believe it is about fuel.
I can understand that by what I have read that you are all unpaid, and it is your right to seek better pay and better conditions, but tell people what you want instead of the media saying it is about the fuel.
Calling people names for not knowing the real reason is some what rude as most of Australia thinks it is about fuel. Just write in this forum and let people know.
Good luck on getting your pay rise and all the best.
Evidence of BAD TRUCK Drivers
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=6047967812416936194&q=bad+tru...
Evidence of BAD TRUCK Drivers
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=8018125237113438921&q=+truck+...
Evidence of BAD TRUCK Drivers
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-7588183842375143870&q=+truck...
Listen to the audio
The runaway truck ramp is meant to prevent accidents ...obviously that design doesnt work.
Very interesting tho that the videos of bad truck drivers had to be drivers in the states and not Australia.. really defeats the purpose dont you think
Diesel Emissions
Introduction to the Diesel Vehicle Emissions NEPM
Environmental Impacts of Diesel Vehicle Emissions
Emissions constitute the most significant source of urban air pollution in Australia. Continued annual growth in vehicle kilometres travelled and fuel consumption by the diesel fleet highlights this as an area of growing concern from the air quality perspective.
The emissions let out by trucks will know doubt be subject to further fees under the Kyoto Protocol which Kevin Rudd signed.
This will affect all truck drivers.
reply diesel emissions
Australia is already subject euro4 emissions standards for new regos.This in some cities of the world means that the exhaust is cleaner than the intake.Weshould be paid for cleaning the air not charged for it.
Bus
Is it possible to get a licence to be able to drive a bus as a motorhome? I thank you in advanced for your information.
Tina
if the bus been converted to
if the bus been converted to a motor home then all u need to do is get a hr licence
Fuel Prices
We have been charged extra for getting goods in the supermarket, at harvey norman all because the fuel prices so do not tell me you do not get anymore.
We are told prices have gone up because fuel has gone up, so the fact is that you do get more money for fuel, so stop complaining.
We all want better pay.
http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,25479,24101194-5017313,00....
prices are going up because of fuel prices - who gets the money - TRUCKIES
So stop complaining
reply to fuel prices
Your an UNEDUCATED DICK.
LMAO- your a pathetic slimy little maggot.
LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply all u like to me.
Same as every other moron on here-it aint just about fuel prices,pay rises or some truckie goin to a brothel(which by the way-IM SURE THERES A DOCTOR,DENTIST,TEACHER ECT SOMEWHERE THAT HAS ALSO BEEN TO A BROTHEL)..WOW BIG DEAL.
Do ya homework Buddy before u come on here and embarress yourself.
who gets the money!
I dont know what drugs ur on i would like some as i dont know what happen to all the money u say we truckies got for cartin ur crap to the shops 4 u to pick up wake up an smell the daisies its the stores making an extra profit an then putting on us if u dont run a truck then u know nothing!!!
Fuel Prices
If you are unfortunate to work for a larger company - that would be them. the Sub Contractors to the likes of Tolls and Linfox etc are not getting the fuel money passed on to them - when they sign the contract it would be for a agreed amount - since then - prices have skyrocketed which means they are locked into the contract - the larger companies ie tolls and linfox can charge more - but thye pocket that money and the unions are doing nothing about it - hence the need for Mick Pattel and the likes to try and slap a bit of sense into the govt and to wankers like you
Suggestion for Truck Drivers.
May I make a suggestion....
If a person owns a truck and drives for a business then wouldn't it be fair for the business to pay for fuel and general repairs on the truck.
Then pay the drivers atleast $2.00 per KLM.
Including a food allowances.
All Fuel paid by business.
All repairs paid by business.
Allow drivers to work for 2 weeks and get 1 week off.
Most truck drivers break there backs to make ends meet.
Suggestion for Truck Drivers.
Not Bad..... Wish it was this good, I get a dollar per k for delivering Maccas.
Maybe interesting to hear what people want out of this strike, please do tell all. What do you want.
tony
Suggestion for Truck Drivers.
i want our own lanes for our trucks, fee government servicing, atleast $5000 for a 80 hour week.
Suggestion for Truck Drivers.
5000 a week, you have to be kidding us. get over it and get a real job
So you want more doctors,
So you want more doctors, nurses and surgeons....for driving?????? Yea thats justified.
Sorry will clarify - So you
Sorry will clarify - So you want MORE MONEY than doctors, nurses and surgeons......for driving????
Yea thats justified.
Trucks carry it all
It's not much good having doctors&nurses if you haven't got trucks to bring hospital supplies or for that matter materials to build the hospital in the first place.
Suggestion for Truck Drivers.
Did anyone read the comment that trucks have been around for millions of years, what the fuck.
We do not need trucks, trucks feed big business, the same businesses who buy goods from china for bullshit prices, or from australian farmers for so little.
It is big business who needs truck, get the fuck of the road, we pay for your repairs and your greenhouse gases on a daily basis.
We don't need trucks nor are you a worthy lot, your demands are way out of line.
REPLY TO SUGGESTION TO TRUCK DRIVERS
YOU MUST BE THE BIGGEST MORON ON EARTH.
DO YOU EAT ?WHERE DID YOUR FOOD COME FROM? HOW DID IT GET THERE? WHERE DID THE MATERIALS FOR YOUR HOME COME FROM? HOW ABOUT ELECTRICITY DO YOU USE THAT? WERE DOES THAT COME FROM? WHERE DID THE MATERIALS FOR THE POWER STATIONS COME FROM AND HOW DID THEY GET TO THE SITE?
BY TRUCK IS THE ANSWER TO ALL THESE QUESTIONS.
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THE UNREASONABLE.
WE WANT SAFETY FOR OUR DRIVERS TO COME FIRST.THIS IS HARDER WITH NEW LEGISLATIONS BEING BROUGHT IN THAN IT WAS BEFOREHAND. FOR EXAMPLE THEY ARE PENALISED FOR NOT STOPPING WHEN THEY HAVE NO ADEQUATE PARKING AREAS TO STOP IN.
AS FOR YOU PAYING MY REPAIR BILLS YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T ACCORD TO PAY MY SERVICE BILLS LET ALONE THE MAINTENANCE COSTS.
WHAT ABOUT REGISTRATION COSTS? WHAT IF YOUR CAR REGISTRATION DOUBLED HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT.MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET OFF THE ROAD .
THIS COUNTRY IS RUN BY IDIOTS LIKE YOU WHO THINK THAT FAIRIES SUPPLY THERE FOOD, FUEL AND ANYTHING THAT YOU WISH TO PURCHASE,IN EXACTLY THE SPOT YOU WISH TO PURCHASE IT IN.
GROW UP THERE ARE KIDS OUT THERE WHO MAKE MORE SENSE THAN YOU.
Reply to suggestion for truck drivers.
How do you pay for repairs again? Is that with your $600 rego or your infringment notices.Your comments if put into practice would destroy the Australian economy unless you know something I don't, and I guess i could say you are in favour of a complete shutdown by all trucks for ever as of now.
For crying out loud.The public has to make up their minds.Some are sayiny truckies are arseholes for stopping work and some are saying stop work and piss off for ever.You as the public can't even get your own shit together and you are spraying comments on here with how trucks should be doing it.I THINK YOU(the public) ARE ALL BACK SEAT DRIVERS WHO WOULD BREAK THIS COUNTRY GIVEN ONE WEEK AS PM.
I'm getting dizzy
I'd rather have freight take
I'd rather have freight take longer and cost more and be transported some other way than have drivers like you moving it for us.
This FORUM has orgainised a Strike?
May I ask how many truck drivers use this site.
By years of exp and just a age.
Because if the strike was orgainised by this forum, I beg to wonder what sort of country we live in. This is a forum not a union, so how the fuck did you orgainise a piss weak strike.
Why don't you join a union, then you may voice your concerns and have things done the right way.
And it is true alot of truck drivers abuse the system but none will admit it. Some do the right thing, but we need laws to protect the drivers of trucks, car and bike etc. Without laws it has been proven that people do have accidents.
I understand that as drivers you want a pay rise, this makes sense, but so does every other australian in every workforce, you are not the only people who are under paid, but more so the whole country.
You take to the city for what? It did not do a things except waste police funds and get your two minutes worth on the news.
This is why none of you are in a union, you are all un orgainised and half headed about things, we have ways of doing things.
Keep your trucks of the road, don't bother bringing them back, our transport will still move ahead.
Most of these people are
Most of these people are members of a union however if you read the comments the unions weak efforts at finding solutions to the current issues have been unsatisfactory and resulted in no change so it has come to the stage where it is no longer financially viable for the truckies and their families.
Between the fines fuel cost of living on the road and rego costs it would be cheaper for the truckies to stay home and receive centrelink payments but then they would be labeled as bludgers and that is one thing you can not say about truckies they work extremely hard for their money.
How would you feel if your car rego went up by 150% i am sure you would not be pleased and would complain about it.
Everyone wants a pay rise but you tell me another industry that has not had a change in rate in 15 years. You obviously havent read all the comments about log book fines as you would have some knowledge of the new fines where truckies will be fined $100 for every minute that they go over their driving time this is revenue raising for the simple fact that there are not enough parking bays/ rest areas along the highway to cater for the number of trucks and many are not located in the right areas to allocate for the hours of driving. This is unacceptable if areas are not available for truckies to use so there will be hundreds of trucks parked on the side of the highway in some areas extremely close to the fog line which then creates a danger for other motorists. This will be another reason for society to have a negative view on truckies but if they can only drive so far without being penalised then they have little choice but to create this danger.
Think about how the truckies are being forced into a corner naturally they are going to come out fighting.
has this forum organized a strike
you are sad.
has this forum organized a strike
you are sad.
Apparently we the general
Apparently we the general public are simply "consumers" who should throw our support behind truck drivers, because if we dont they will blockade the roads and stop work and thus stop supply our goods. Now theres a group that deserves our suuport and respect. A group that goes against its own threatening them with violence or turning on them if they dont participate. A group whose leader is now going to pull some other stunt to get the media's attention. What is this really about? Is it about the attention? Is it about you wanting to be superiour over us mere consumers? Because here's a word for the wise - you deserve nothing of what you want if you think you have the right to behave in this way.
Re:Apparently we the general
30 years since the last blockade at razorback.In those 30 years of pretty good service and the billions and billions and billions km's travelled by trucks relatively trouble free, have they let you down before now.In those 30 years have you ever considered their pawn like existence.Do you think mr pattel did not attempt to liason with the people in power before even thinking about a shut down process.As a voter of a democracy an individual shouldn't have to pay a fee to join an association so that he might be able to express some very valid concerns.Who is to say that Mr pattels concerns and solutions are light years ahead of the unions and the government and they refuse to hear his word because he is one individual with no money and power.Who is to say that his solutions if heard are better for the public and trucks.The shutdown was last resort to gain some power to heard.It should never have got to this.As an australian and a voter he has the right to be heard as a man with millions of kms of experience in the industry and he should have never been turned away by all levels of government well before the shutdown was considered.The public was never held at ransom.The shutdown was directed at the government only.From what I have read on this forum the public doesn't trucks anyway, so thats a weight off my shoulders.I think side line experts should research the facts before shutdown meetings were held and if you were to see the minutes of these meetings you would see that the concern for the general public on mr pattels behalf was very high,thus his attempts to use the shutdown as last resort.ALDODAS angle of attack has been completely different on the other hand and they are the ones who have had all the press.When Mr Pattel gets his world out there it will be clear how sincere this man is.
Lastly, it is human nature not to worry about something they haven't got until they haven't got it.We are all selfish in our own ways and please haven't we all worked there more to something then meets the eye?
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Funny enough we were thinking of this and it is not a bad idea, I might take this up, come on guys lets do it.
Dan
Who do truck drivers thhink they are?
You are merley pawns of our society. You do not own the road, nor do you have the ability to be able to follow road rules.
Reply to WHO DO TRUCK DRIVERS THINK THEY ARE?
I've always known it to be a problem of mine.Six years in the industry and 750000 km's under my belt(excluding km's in a car)yet I still don't have the ability to handle 42 tonnes of semi that is 19 meters long on the open road let alone inner city driving.Thats where I really get told off.I am merely a worthless pawn of our society and I am quite clearly unable to do anything else apart from a bad truck driver.
Due to my low IQ, I have to somehow become professional.Can we please organise you to come with me for one month.I'll drive for two weeks so you can record and assess my faults as a driver. I would then be honoured to have you take the wheel and demonsrtate to me the do and don'ts of trucking and show me how to be a better person all round both on and off the road.The longevity of my career depends on this meeting.With your help I am hoping to achieve 35 years or 4000000 million kms of safe trucking as many veterens before me have achieved.
Yours sincerely
Chris Taylor
Interest:-
http://www.coasttocoast100.com.au/about/
Nothing more to say. Speaks for itself.
maybe the brain dead idiot
maybe the brain dead idiot should actually read the site to see what's it is actually about
maybe the lowlife idiot
maybe the lowlife idiot should shut his mouth and realise that to post the link we had to visit the site. OH WOW.
Couldnt say it better myself.
Couldnt say it better myself. Open your eyes out there you whiners. people like doctors work ridiculous hours under truly strenuous and tedious conditions, often treating the results of your drug induced accidents yet do they carry on like you? No they dont yet they actually make a difference!
Wake up to yourselves. Nobody is ever going to bow down to you like you seem to want them to. Yes you drive trucks. Yes those trucks get goods to the stores but if you didnt LIFE WOULDNT END - THE WORLD WOULD GO ON! We would find a way! In case you forget....there was a day when trucks didn't exist....OMG!
Couldnt say it better myself.
Right ON !!!
Think of the families and victims of people killed by trucks. You have Police, Fireman, Ambulances and Tow Truck Drivers looking at the accident scenes which are quite nasty and the families, friends seeing the results, but do you ever apologise for there loses, NO.
You continue to use drugs, you continue to break road rules, you continue to drive over your allowed time, you complain about rest stops when in fact you can pull over in any given town.
Its complaining and complaining that you want to do, I do not see anyone from the TWU complaining here. Why is that, oh maybe because they are a union and do things the right way, instead of threatening people to partake in this unlawful strike.
isnt it past your bedtime?
isnt it past your bedtime?
THE WIFE
RECENTLY THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM SOME VERY UNEDUCATED PERSONS ABOUT TRUCK DRIVERS. THEY HAVE FAILED TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK AS TO HOW THESE DRIVERS SURVIVE. THERE IS AN OLD SAYING 'BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL MAN IS A GOOD WOMAN' (AND EDUCATED)WITHOUT HER UNPAID WORK BEHIND THE SEEN AND EVEN UP THERE SHARING THE WORKLOAD BOTH HOME AND AWAY HAS NOT EVEN BEEN GIVEN CONSIDERATION IN THIS INDUSTRY.WE JUST DO IT FOR SURVIVAL
THE WIFE
lol - THE WIFE, are you royality or something? Does being a WIFE mean that you know it all? Your so funny. (stupid sic)
The wife
You have not got a clue, hence you being a wife,. lol
If a person was educated, he or she would use that ability to seek other employment, then again would that truck driver be able to get employment elsewhere or would there education level holt thhis propect.
The Wife, men are men, they have needs which are not always available on the homefront. Not all truck drivers would use prositutes, but alot do. Do you think for one moment that your husband would tell you if in fact he did see a prositute, I don't think so.
Do you think you really know your husband?
reply to the wife
um since when did this forum become about If a truckie uses a prostitute or not??
Poor thing..Are u really that bored???
Uneducated Truck Drivers
Truck drivers have no choice to drive trucks, they do not have an education that would allow them to be paid more than 15 dollars an hour.
Now they want to earn as much as $30 per hour, but may I ask what education level they reached? For people wo spent years at college and uni do not earn $30 per hour, so what give truck drivers the right to be allowed to earn the same as a person who puts years into study.
Maybe we need our deliverys to be transported by trains.
For too many years truck drivers have abused the law, they use drugs to force themselves to stay awake, they use sex workers in every town they visit, they do not follow the rules on the road, to me some are thugs and some do the right thing.
Has anyone listen to chanel 40 = a bunch of children talking shit.
THE WIFE
My husband does not have a college/uni education but I am sure he could teach a lot of students things they dont learn in school. Changing tyres,servicing engines,fatigue management, reading maps, anger/frustration managements,loading,recieving and dispatching goods not to mention money management on the road.
example:one meal at a roadhouse is an hour of wage and to pay for sex workers is probably 3 hours of wage and I have no idea what drugs cost.
Trains? any fool knows they cant deliver all the goods.
Unfortunately we have thugs in all industry BUT if you do your homework you will find that the percentage is the same in any industry, regardless of education and background.
Chanel 40 might be a lot of shit but it is also communication for a lonely trip while people like yourself sit in comfort watching shit on television
As far as talking shit on
As far as talking shit on channel 40 - these guys treat each other like family and i am sure you have talked shit to your family in the past. They driver the long hours and the radio is the way they communicate with friends and family while keeping themselves through the long hours. If you had a sense of humour you would find most of it funny but you obviously lack the ability to laugh. And if you dont like it turn the radio off or go to another channel. My kids talk to their dad on the radio and I guess many would say they are talking shit but no one complains coz they understand that we are in the same situation as them and need to stay in contact.
Plus it helps daddy to get thru the night knowing that he has spoken to mummy and the kids.
Your problem with the radio cant be too bad if you keep listening.
And dont believe everything you hear on the radio it is entertainment.
stupid drivers
How many deaths involving truck drivers?
What degree to you need to drive a truck?
How many have degrees?
How many use sex workers (without there wifes knowing)?
How many have or have tried drugs.
Why should a truck driver get paid more than someone who has spent years at uni to study for a career?
Truck drivers use threats against people, do you think you are a gang?
Do you think no one else is suffering with the increase of fuel and food and the daily cost of living?
What a career, drive back and forth, so edcuational, chat on chanel 40 about shit.
What a dull life you poor bugers have, maybe you should all get of your arse and do some real work.
I work at a factory, I get 1840 per fortnight, I load trucks who turn up, I get more than the driver, and I have a life. Now you tell me who is the stupid one.
Every time I speak to a truck driver, they all say they hate it, not one has ever stated they like it, so change your career.
Mr Smith
RE TO STUPID DRIVERS
HOW MANY DEATHS INVOLVING TRUCKS? HOW MANY OF THOSE DEATHS BROUGHT ON BY FATIGUED CAR DRIVERS OR PEOPLE TRYING TO COMMIT SUICIDE?
AS FOR A DEGREE YOU DO NEED TO PASS CERTAIN CRITERIA TO BE A TRUCK DRIVER FIRST YOU MUST HAVE COMMON SENSE, BUT HEY YOU DONT, SO THAT CUTS YOU OUT.
AS FOR SEX WORKERS TRUCK DRIVERS ARE NOT THERE MAIN CLIENTEL JUST THE ONES EVERYONE LIKES TO POINT OUT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE TRIED OR ARE TAKING DRUGS? WHO KNOWS BUT I BET THE DRIVERS THAT DO ARE ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE DOING DRUGS.
AS FOR BEING PAID MORE THAN SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT YEARS AT UNI I WOULDNT KNOW.
THERE ARE SOME SIMPLE MINDED DRIVERS OUT THERE WHO HAVE MADE THREATS AND FOR THAT I AM SORRY NOT ALL OF US THINK LIKE THEM VIOLENCE ONLY LEADS TO MORE VIOLENCE AND NO ONE WANTS THAT.
WE KNOW THAT THE COST OF FUEL AND THE INCREASED COST OF LIVING AFFECTS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY BUT PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, THE ISSUES THAT WE TALKING ABOUT IS THE GOVERNMENT MAKING MORE RESTRICTIONS ON DRIVERS WITHOUT INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF STOPPING AREAS SO THAT THESE DRIVERS CAN GET OFF THE ROAD WITHIN THOSE RESTRICTED TIMES WITHOUT CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR OTHER MOTORISTS USING THE ROADS.
THE INCREASE IN THE COST OF REGISTRATIONS IS ALSO ANOTHER WAY OF THE GOVERNMENT MILKING EVERY CENT OUT OF US SO THAT WE MUST THEN PASS ON THIS RAISE IN COSTS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
AS FOR DRIVING BACK AND FORTH IT IS MORE INTERESTING THAN SITTING AT A DESK TREATING PEOPLE LIKE SHIT JUST BECAUSE IM BORED, YOU GET TO SEE DIFFERENT PLACES AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU DONT GET TO SEE FROM BEHIND A DESK OR FROM THE FACTORY FLOOR
AS FOR SITTING ON THEIR ARSE THAT IS NOT THE ONLY THING THAT THEY DO BUT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW.
YOU SAY YOU WORK AT A FACTORY AND EARN 1840 A FORTNIGHT GOOD ON YOU IM SURE YOU WORK HARD FOR THAT .IM SURE THAT YOU HAVE A SAFE WORK ENVIRONMENT.AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO GO OUT ON THE ROAD EVERYDAY HAVE A SAFE WORKPLACE.
AS FOR EARNING MORE THAN THE DRIVERS MY EMPLOYEES TAKE HOME 1450 PER WEEK NOT FORTNIGHT SO WHOS THE DUMB ONE NOW.
NOT ALL DRIVERS HATE THE JOB THEY JUST HATE HOW MUCH HARDER THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE IT
Come off it people!
Lots of professions have tight and STRICT government regulations and there are good reasons for those regulations being put in place! And guess what, in part they are for YOU THE DRIVERS own damn safety!! But instead of even trying to see COMMON SENSE in these regulations you cry hard done by!!! And guess what....you were all crying hard done by before this too!! Its always you people saying POOR ME POOR ME, well heres a revelation: your not the hardest done by profession or the hardest workers and you deserve NO MORE RESPECT than anyone else. Heres hoping that this failure of a strike/protest that you tried to stage brought you all down a few notches. Nobody will give in to your demands and if you hate your job, leave it and hopefully you will be replaced by someone who respects the law and has some decency about them.
?Stupid Drivers?
How many deaths are caused by those truck drivers, sir.
I have never used a sex worker, but many of the population of Australia has, have you sir?
You ask how many have tried or use drugs...how many of the population of Australia use or have tried drugs?
So far you have asked pretty silly questions.
How many truck drivers have a degree? Well, for starters, I do. I choose to drive a truck because I love it. I do not do it for the money, I do it because I love it. I do not use drugs, and I haven't "killed anyone".
You actually have absolutely no idea what this dispute was actually about, but then...no, I won't insult you.
As for earning more than an ex uni student, a damn lot of tradesmen earn more than ex uni students. And why not? most ex uni students do not understand the real world anyway.
I won't change my career, sir, as I love my job, it is not boring at all, and I dare say it takes alot more skill than you will ever have, sir.
Dallas.
Mr Smith Full Of Shit
You must work for the goverment mr smith.It is exactly attitudes like yours that is destroying this country.I beg to differ why should someone bludge around in uni for years then come out with some piece of paper that says they can earn ten times what the average worker gets,
.Seems like more overeducated bullshit to me.Seems your education did not do you much good you WANKER
Mr Wanker Smith
cop that,loser.
Mr Smith-no doubt it aint ya real name!
YOU BIG FACTORY WORKER YOU!!!
which trucks do you load bud?
Mr Smith
Under the proposed new laws - YOU will be held responsible under the new Chain of responsibility laws - if you load a truck which has an accident!! Any business/employee of that business that uses road transport at ANY stage can be held liable in the event of an accident/incident.
So, Mr Smith - perhaps you could use some of your 1840 p/f wage to help the likes of Mick Pattel fight against unfare laws which WILL affect you. Most of these truckies are owner/drivers - who have to BUY their own trucks (upwards of $500,000) - can YOU do that on your wage??
Wake Up and Smell the revenue raising - cause it IS going to affect you
BACK TO WORK
So its back to work the lot of you. Holiday over. Talk about alot of hype over nothing. Consider this a lesson for all of you, next time you want change - dont DEMAND it!!
reply to back to work
Ok we will just ask nicely next time shall we and all will be right.ok.
Reply to stupid drivers
Mr smith.I am interested.What are the actual statistics of truck related deaths and what has the coroner found the causes to be.Also can you please give me the percentage of truck related deaths in comparison to the amount of time spent on the road or kilometres driven compared to car related deaths/time spent on the road/km's driven.
Also at a random road side drug test can you please reveal to me the percentage of drugs detected between car car and truck drivers.
Also would you be able to run my small company,understand all the legallities and documentation that needs to be completed monthly.Would you be able to run this business in a competitive market and return profit?
Also,we have two trucks sitting in the yard ready to go.We can't get anyone to drive them due to the physical side of our work.Most last one week.Two at the most.I would nearly safely bet that I work harder then you and am much fitter, but I don't like to make assumptions like yourself.
Come and drive for us and show the world how good you really are.
Last of all.What OP did you get?
PS. Pop quiz:Every truck driver grows some brains like yourself and comes to work with you.I mean every single driver.What then?
Mr Smith!!!!!!!!!!!
So, all the "stupid, drug taking, sex staved, under educated,and dare I say "people killing", truckies stay at home; Now where do you get your everyday essentials from!!!!!!!!! like it or not, TRUCKS CARRY THIS COUNTRY. No matter what else happens in a day, a truck must arrive with the "goods".
Mr Smith!!!!!!!!!!!
Trucks do not carry this country..... You may feed big business but you will never affect us the community you tool.
We dont need you, stay of the road and get a REAL JOB.
You think you stance here is doing anything, you do not even belong to a legal union nor do they want crap like you, thats why this strike is not sanction by the union.
You have some FEMALE threatening people on your side, and I hope the police charge her and throw away the key as she committed a crime.
You idiot - THE WORLD WOULDNT
You idiot - THE WORLD WOULDNT END IF TRUCKS DIDNT DELIVER OUR GOODS!!! Trucks dont bloody carry this country god pull your head in. You seriously have a GOD complex. Well newsflash - your not god. Without trucks, life goes on!
relpy to the real idiot
Oh My GOD!!!
Re: THE WORLD WOULDN'T
Please help me? I'm a little uneducated.If trucks don't carry all our goods, then who does?
Secondly,why were there many people threatening to sue mr pattel for the shutdown when AUSTRALIA obviously doesn't need trucks.I'm very interested to hear your very detailed solution to a country with not one truck in service.Think long and hard.Your IQ depends on it!
Has the world always had
Has the world always had trucks, over the millions of years of existence? Is there absolutely NO other way to transport goods? If you truly think that this country would come to a complete halt without a truck to move goods then you are the one who is very very intellectually challenged mate.
Australia has had enough of this bullshit and NOBODY has the right to try and hold a country virtually to ransom to get what they want. TRUCK DRIVERS ARE NO MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THEIR CHOSEN PROFESSION. Get over yourself.
What has this country come to
After reading a lot of the crap some of you have written I cannot believe this is getting written by Australians,you know the land of a fair go.I realise that you are probably just trying to bait the drivers but this is serious.These people have legitement concerns that we as a nation should be calling out to be answered,Afterall it could be your industry that these cash starved politicians go after next.Maybe you do not work,if thats the case these people help pay your dole,either way try and be of help to the truckies instead of laying shit on them.Whatever happened to mateship in this country.
RE: has the world always had?
Well I was just thinking to myself and i'm not very smart, but if every truck 4.5 tonne and over stopped now, and I mean every truck now, right this minute,then in my eyes the only things that would be moving would be cars,planes,boats and trains.OOOOPS. Hang on.They only have enough fuel to last a few trips.What now?The world is millions of years old.What did they do before modern transport as we know it.
Thats right horse drawn cart and bullock teams.What a geat idea.A couple of tonnes per load at 2 or 3 kms/hour not to mention green house friendly.no sorry thats not quite right either.Scientists say domestic animals contribute huge amounts of green house gass.But that doesn't matter.We have no trucks.What a logistical nightmare.How many bullock teams to transport fuel to the airport to fill one 747.And when theplane takes off they have a problem and are forced to make an emergency landing,before which the bulk of the fuel has to dumped over the sea, how much longer will the bullock teams take to get another load.This is just one plane out of hundreds let alone any other mode of transport.
Peak hour traffic would be fun on the gateway.Thousands of bullock teams doing a top speed of 2 or 3 kms/hour and thousands of frustrated commuters whinging about how slow the cow power is.
Your ability to think outside the square is mind blowing.Keep up the fantastic work!
Reply to the reply to: has the world always had trucks
My point is really quite simple - WITHOUT TRUCKS THE WORLD WILL CONTINUE, WE WONT OBLITERATE, AND SURE IT WONT BE EASY - BUT WE WILL SURVIVE.
And your ability to think that you are the key to the continuation of the functioning of this country shows that you are indeed....simple.
Simple...that is your name
Simple...that is your name isnt it...simple.
City Slickers with no idea
My god, I have just been reading some of the comments about taking all trucks off the road. Are you fools all from the city, and never stepped out of the city limits to see how far it is from one end of the country to the other. Trains can't handle the freight they carry now, which is a pittance. All you city folk would be starved out in a week. (Actually with your mentalities this is not a bad idea) Trucks carry food, fuel, electrical goods, housing materials, cement, beer and spirits, steel, computers, chemicals just to mention a few. How long do you think you would last without these. Not to mention they also cart the diesel needed to run machinery at the power stations, and the diesel needed for the mining industry to run their machines. Don't be an idiot and think the railways can do any of this, as they would take too long and they can't get it right with the freight they do cart now. They loose container loads of goods at a time.
I know truck drivers that save lives everyday, by taking evasive action on the stupidity of most car drivers. (Passing on corners, double lines and sometimes even on traffic islands) A truck driver recently took evasive action on a young man who went to sleep at the wheel of a car and veered over in front of the truck. The driver went bush to avoid hitting him head on, rolled his truck with explosives on, climbed out of his truck injured and went and dragged the young driver to a safe distance in case it exploded. I'd be willing to be not one of you morons would do any of this as obviously you lack compassion and common sense.
city slickers ALRITE-cant
city slickers ALRITE-cant stand em and am so over their uneducated moronic views on truckdrivers but they just DONT GET IT,and probably never will.
Reply to the reply to the reply:has the world always had trucks.
You made the first comment. Not me. I didn't give you a straight out opinion from the side line.You seem to have it all soughted, so for the better of the community please give me a well thought out solution to a world without trucks.There is 20 million plus people residing in Australia now.Don't beat around your own little bush and tell the world how you propose to run an economy without trucks.You just might convince me to join you. Please only reply with serious solutions that will work in 2008 and beyond.I would like to see this mess fixed up once and for all, so answers with no solutions are worthless and pointless.
So the question is
HOW DO WE PROPOSE TO RUN A NATION WITHOUT TRUCKS FOR THE BETTER OF THE NATION?
Half arsed comments not welcom.It only shows a low level of IQ.Constructive answers will help shape our economy.
I didn't say I had all of the
I didn't say I had all of the answers nor did I propose that I had a solution. What I did say is that the world WONT END without trucks to move our goods. It seems you disagree and feel that the movement of freight by trucks in this country is PIVOTAL to our SURVIVAL.
Well done Mr Smith! Finally!
I couldnt agree more but Mr Smith you will be abused on here because you are stating something that a bulk of the people who are on here disagree with. But well done to you. And if any of you on here deny that the shit with drugs and sex workers doesn't go on then you are a pack of liars. Ive been on the road. Ive been in my husbands truck when he has been offered both and I have seen the drivers who take up the offers in the next truck, so dont make out as if ALL truck drivers are perfect. Yes those who do the right thing deserve praise. But I agree with Mr Smith, is anyone holding a gun to your head saying you MUST keep doing this job? If its so fucking awful - LEAVE and go do something else. In the mean time. Stop your god damn whinging and grow the hell up!!!!!
Well done Mr Smith! Finally!
so bloodly true, right on
Tou idiot!!! On the money
Tou idiot!!! On the money they earn each week there is not enough to pay for drugs or sex workers. They are pushing to make their deadlines and if they are stopping for sex workers in every town it would take a week to get from point A to point B.
Some people have no idea what the industry is like or how busy these drivers are. Get educated on the industry or if you can suck up to a driver to take you with them for a trip you will see how had this industry is on their drivers.
I travel with my partner and there is no way i could do the job week in week out. Why these guys may not have a high educational level they have plenty of experience on the road. It annoys me that people are judged on their academic education because academics does not help in this job a great deal and if they had a high academic education they would not be in this industry being treated the way they are.
Sometimes life experience is more valuable than academic.
Idiots like this one have no appreciation for the job truckies do, and their comments are hilarious, they must be sheltered if they have no idea about the industry at all.
Truckies need to be given a break and be allowed to do the job they are employed to do.
Tou idiot!!! On the money
What ever, I am not going to name my clients nor the location of there meetings, or stuff like that. Go on, call any three sex workers in any paper and ask them this.
:I am just wondering if you have ever seen a truck driver": Our biggest clients are truck drivers and they always will be.
They do have money and they do pay for sex, so get with the program and stop the cover up.
I want repeat business, so I will Not disclose the names or trucking firms of these drivers, they are normal people who have needs and I have never meet one truck driver I did not like, I found them to be good men.
Sex Workers
Bullshit!
So many of these truck drivers use sex workers - check there mobile phone log.
I will not say all of them do, but a hugh amount of them do,and I know that for a FACT.
Most who do are married, I have been with drivers from -
Mt.Isa
Townsville
Mackay
Rockampton
Gladstone
Bundaberg
Sunshine Coast
Brisbane
Gold Coast
I have seen truck drivers so many many times, and I am one person. How many sex workers are out there, truck drivers wives do not have a clue.
A man is a man, they have needs, they have fanasties
the sex worker
jeez honey bunny u get around.
Nice to see u are so proud of your job,lol
Trucks
Why do you think big businesses like coles and woolworths , australia post and others buy there own trucks, they fill them up, and pay the drivers a good wage.
It is to push you people out, your demands are crap. We do not care about you, to many years you people have abused the system and you are demanding more pay, for what?
I hope it gets harder and harder and maybe you will all learn to follow the road rules.
Woolworths and coles do not
Woolworths and coles do not own their own trucks bud.
trucks
I have noticed woolworths trucks on the road, is that what they are doing, I am shocked at them now, taking over small business and now taking over with trucks, whats next with woolworths?
LMAO!!! Hey truckies when was
LMAO!!! Hey truckies when was the last time you got a pay rise??? My partner hasnt had one for over 15 years!!!
Make it harder means drive more stay away from the family and push the limits which then results in accidents frustration and death. Yep that is really something to hope for!!! Hope it aint your car under one of the trucks when it happens coz that would just be Karma!!!
LMAO!!! Hey truckies when was
15 years since last pay rise, ha ha ha, you need to check your hubbies pay slip, we have and we do use prositutes, my wife found out and left me, nothing better than seeing a prositute, no hassles, no snapping at me when I walk in the door, I keep all my money and get to have fun. Wake up girl
u poor bugger you
u poor bugger you
I do
I do 2, why not can't get it at home
poor poor bastard,my heart
poor poor bastard,my heart bleeds.
Then leave your wife and do
Then leave your wife and do the honest thing you wank.This is exactly the point. This is why truckies are stereotyped cos of people like you.
Then leave your wife and do
If I leave my wife, I would lose the house, farm and truck. Now that would be a stupid mistake. You have absolutely NO idea do you missy. It is not love when seeing a chick for some fun but more relief from the stress.
I know that my marriage would be over if my wife found out, but I am a man and I have needs as do many of my mates. We all do it and we love to talk about it though some of us don’t.
I thank the prostitute who made comments to protect her clients, that is very impressive.
It may not be love but it is
It may not be love but it is disrespecting your wife and your wedding vows. Your wife does not deserve that and the fact that you are only worried about losin g your possessions proves how much your marriage means to you. Your wife deserves to know what she is married to and hopefully she will find out soon. Have enough respect for her to allow her to move on with her life and find someone who loves and respects her for the woman that she is.
Im sure the prostitue will sit by your side at the hospital after your next accident, or will organise to pay your fines, do your washing and allow you to sleep on your days off.
Well what sort of marriage do
Well what sort of marriage do you have if you cant even keep the vows of honesty and faithfulness. You make me sick sir. So your wife has to sit there none the wiser while you have your cake and eat it to. Thank god you are simply a minority. I hope your wife does find out one day, she surely deserves someone who will be honest with her. And "we all do it", well goes to show the kind of person you and your mates must be like because its surely not the way of all truck drivers.Because the drivers I know, mates, brothers, father and father-in-laws on the road - they are able to conduct themselves morally and honestly both professionally and personally. I pity you. You give drivers are bad reputation.
Well what sort of marriage do
you have got no idea do you? I am a father, a brother, a uncle and a grandfather, I carry myself well, as I said its sex not love and therefore I will continue. So many of us do it and you think your comments are going to stop us, whhy do you think someone of us have 2 mobile phones, lol. Even some trucks with tracking on them, we have girls come to us, we are not stupid.
Oh you are very very stupid
Oh you are very very stupid sir.And you have my pity.I have more idea and more morals than you ever will. You are a father and a grandfather? Well, I will refrain from commenting on that particular aspect out of respect for them. As I said, thank god you are a minority and that a bulk of the rest of the men and women on our roads are decent, moralistic people.
your hubby would be a client,
your hubby would be a client, you would never know. Whos stupid now, lol. You think you all know your husbands, you think you can trust them, you think they do not sleep around, hahaha.
Why the fuck then is the sex industry a MULTI BILLION dollar industry
No way my hubby would be a
No way my hubby would be a client, I know everything he does and what he spends his money on PLUS he wouldnt risk losing his wife and kids. He knows I dont need proof I will be gone if I have a feeling that he is doing the wrong thing. He respects me and appreciates what I do as a truckie wife. I guess I am one of the lucky ones who has a mature husband who takes his vows seriously and loves to have a family to come home too.
Sex isnt everything we know the importance of having a companion to be there thru the good times and the bad times.
The group we travel with must also be mature because they wouldnt disrespect their wives either in all the years I have been travelling with my husband we have only had one mate who has betrayed his wife and he paid for it. The wife was packed and gone by the time he got home. He lost his wife and kids she let him have the house and the furniture so he was working and paying for a house that he only gets to enjoy once a fortnight. Oh a great life all because he couldnt control himself and had no respect for his family.His life hasnt been the same since and he has regretted it ever since.
Honey I travel with my
Honey I travel with my husband so I would know.
I am a Adult Worker in Brisbane
I am a female adult worker in Brisbane, I have worked in the industry for 15 years, and I do agree with some statements made here.
You get clients (Men) and sometimes (Women) from all walks in life.
I have seen truckies and would put them at the number one position of clients.
Re: I am a Adult Worker in Brisbane
What position do they prefer
ohgosh
you are an idiot
you are the uneducated one i am sorry to say
you are an idiot
No the idiot is the one spending half his or hers life on the road for a low wage. Change your career if you want more money, I was a truck driver and decided it was enough, I drive cabs now, I make approx 2500 a week with more time to myself, I also have a hugh account balance something I could not get while driving trucks for 20 years.
reply to uneducated truck drivers-
Thanks for your uneducated input.
Another one that thinks they know it all.
reply to uneducated truck drivers-
Well maybe you would be in a better position to get on the internet if you were truly interested in saving money, and maybe using your time more constructive and get out there and make some money, I ask you know who is the uneducated one.
dump truck drivers
(1) Ban trucks from the city
(2) All truck drivers to supply blood test for drugs, in germany they can do a blood drug test and it will show any drug that a person has used in the last 7 years, I wonder how many would fail this.
(3) Trucks have a hugh effect on our greenhouse gases, they should be made to pay for this, requesting a fee of 5000 from each driver per year for the waste.
(4) Age limit of truck drivers
(5) Truck drivers who threaten people to join in strikes should face heavy jail sentences.
reply to dump truck drivers
What a great idea!!!!!Lets transport all goods into the city in one tonne holden utes(so that will be 42 utes per truck).Better still lets have a railway line into every driveway in the country.Lets also drug test every person in the country to be fair.I would like to see a percentage comparison.
Question:What makes more greenhouse gasses.One power efficient diesal engined truck towing 42 tonnes or 42 petrol powered holden utes covering the same load.Yes you are right again.Lets ban every truck in the world and use trains,boats,plains and one tonne utes(Another question:There is already a serious driver shortage because of the mess of the industry and public arrogance like yours,because after all you do know the in and outs of the industry don't you,who is going to drive all these utes)I think there is a driver shortage also because of many people thinking they are smarter than what they really are and go to uni to make themselves feel intelligent.I really can't applaud most uni grads because they run the country and it is a mess all round.Proof is in the pudding.TEXTBOOK READERS WITH NO REAL WORLD PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE(I'm not targeting the humble uni grads either.I applaud your good work and down to earth attitude towards problems we all face)
Another great point you make.Lets put an age limit on truck drivers,say about,what do you reckon expert.50.I assumed because you are so well educated that you would have known that the majority of this depleting industry is of a very mature and experienced age. So lets sack them.We then won't have to worry about a shut down period because most of the industry is retired.What a great idea.You really are very smart.
Last of all.I agree with you once again.Lets jail striking truck drivers.Not just the ones that threaten,but all of them,and while we are at it all striking teachers,wharfies,meatworkers,surgeons,fireman,policemen,nurses and who ever else dare try and voice their opinion when the authorties refuse to listen before the srtikes are organised.Yep! heavy jail sentences for these people.Throw them into the dogs with the murderers and rapists because at the end of the day these striking people are no better.
To Mr or Mrs Anonymous.Your thought process is like I have never seen. Your obvious IQ or intelligence is absolutely captivating. You have a beautiful mind. I would also like to say you are wasted in your chosen profession.I VOTE YOU NUMBER 1 FOR PM!You run the country and I'll start looking for 1000000 one tonne ute drivers
PS.why don't you read a book on how to fly.You will then be qualified to fly yourself to the ACT for parliment.There is a saving there.Look at that.I'm neally as smart as you.I have another idea.Lets turn Queen Sreet Mall into an airstrip for express deliveries and knock down all the bridges on the brisbane river so we can bring the ships back upto southbank. This would streamline transport for sure and certain.
I'm smarter than I thought.Can I be your adviser when you are PM???????????????
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good luck u tosser.
reply to dump truck drivers
I might be a tosser in your eyes, but I am fed up with truck drivers using drugs and risking peoples lives on the road.
When a truck hits a car you do not have a chance of surviving what so ever.
I will ensure that I push to have all drivers tested for drugs and get them of the roads, I am like many other people fed up with the neglect drivers do to get a job done.
yep ok u do that.
yep ok u do that.
Your not a tosser, your just
Your not a tosser, your just a honest hardworking person who has clearly had enough of the bullshit and I applaud you. Whenever anything is brought up about drugs, or illegal activity or anything bad to do with truck drivers they all cry conspiracy. Its a joke. And you ask any truck driver when there is a crash who they blame. Ive been in trucks doing interstate, Ive seen what the roads are like and I see it goes BOTH ways. But a bulk of the truckies ever refuse to see that. Its always the same blame game. I say, when the industry is drug free and totally above-board and honest, then make your case for better pay and treatment. Clean up the industry, thats a worthy fight!
What Strike?
I drove from Townsville to Brisbane yesterday and I seen more than 200 plus trucks on the highway. Trucks everywhere, I guess there is no strike.
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author of this article "Truck Strike"
Citizen X
c/o
P.O.Box 545
Cotton Tree Qld 4558
Email: outbackfamily@bigpond.com
Throughout history we know that strikes can achieve good results for employees, we only need to look at the past.
Fuel prices are hurting everyone at the moment, however when a person is lead to believe that the increase in fees are due to transport you tend to believe them, well that’s until you realise that truck drivers are not receiving this money.
-Truck drivers need better pay and conditions –
Continue your strike until you get positive results as making a stand for your rights is being bloody Australian.
It's a pity that not all are supporting this strike as if all truck drivers stopped their rigs then something positive would happen.
I am not even a truck driver or know any, but I do see them daily on the road, going back and forth bringing goods to each community. These men work hard; they drive long hours and get very little profits, for what?
People do not need to be threaten to achieve results, I am totally SHOCKED that the Unions are not backing this strike, maybe if all sat down and organised an Australia Wide Strike then you may get the results needed.
Big businesses are not going to be affected by this strike, the only people who will be affected are those truck drivers who have taken a stand today, their lives and jobs are at stake.
If all “Truck Drivers” Australia wide where able to organise a National Strike for a month or more then I could see business and governments making changes for you all.
The only way people will listen as it would cripple Australia.
I know many of you are suffering financially (14 months myself and my 13 yr old daughter & and a friend have been homeless, we lost our business and home, we know what it’s like). It is only going to get worse, petrol prices are NOT coming down. Your pay is not going up, but everything in our community is, from loans to rent, to the products you all bring into town.
Unless we as true blue Australians stand together as ONE. A National Strike in support for better pay and conditions and facilities for drivers (Rest Stops) and driver safety issues.
Truckie Strike
dam right.
Transport body plays down
Transport body plays down truck strike impact
Tuesday, 29/07/2008
The country's largest road transport association says 7 per cent of truck drivers are participating in the national strike, not 70 per cent as suggested by strike organisers.
The National Road Transport Operators Association is against the industrial action, saying talking with government is the best way to resolve the trucking industry's concerns.
Truck drivers are striking over log book changes, high fuel prices and increases to truck registrations.
Chief executive Bernie Belacic says the small turnout at some meetings shows that most drivers aren't involved.
"A lot of people are going about their normal business," he says.
"There are very, very few of our members who are participating, or even taking their vehicles off the road, out of an industry which employs 400,000 drivers.
"In reality, it's a very, very small group of people, but there are better ways to go about resolving the issues rather than striking."
You are so wrong - obviously
You are so wrong - obviously you work for the unions or the media - the numbers supporting this is much bigger than the media reports. If the trucking industry employees over 400,000 drivers - why weren't any of them consulted regarding the reforms?
union bull
As someone stated in the other comment, a strike will get results as shown in history. These results can only be achieved if all truck drivers pull up now.
Why do they keep working and show no support for the industry they are in?
All truck drivers will benifit from this strike and it has been way to long since we have had major changes to our industry.
I am for the strike
Truckie Strike
so true!!!
Truckie Strike
My truck is parked in the back yard, it needs a bit of work and this strike will allow me to complete the work and support the cause.
About time someone realised it is not the fuel but our income, the daily cost of living goes up an up and up, but we need to do more hours just to make ends meet.
HEAPS OF TRUCKS STILL ON
HEAPS OF TRUCKS STILL ON WESTERN HWY ^AND GOING PAST BALLAN
HEAPS OF TRUCKS STILL ON
yeah not much support out there. Pitty we live ina piss weak country,.
Truckie Strike
Throughout history we know that strikes can achieve good results for employees, we only need to look at the past.
Fuel prices are hurting everyone at the moment, however when a person is lead to believe that the increase in fees are due to transport you tend to believe them, well that’s until you realise that truck drivers are not receiving this money.
-Truck drivers need better pay and conditions –
Continue your strike until you get positive results as making a stand for your rights is being bloody Australian.
It's a pity that not all are supporting this strike as if all truck drivers stopped their rigs then something positive would happen.
I am not even a truck driver or know any, but I do see them daily on the road, going back and forth bringing goods to each community. These men work hard; they drive long hours and get very little profits, for what?
People do not need to be threaten to achieve results, I am totally SHOCKED that the Unions are not backing this strike, maybe if all sat down and organised an Australia Wide Strike then you may get the results needed.
Big businesses are not going to be affected by this strike, the only people who will be affected are those truck drivers who have taken a stand today, their lives and jobs are at stake.
If all “Truck Drivers” Australia wide where able to organise a National Strike for a month or more then I could see business and governments making changes for you all. The only way people will listen as it would cripple Australia.
I know many of you are suffering financially (14 months myself and my 13 yr old daughter & and a friend have been homeless, we lost our business and home, we know what it’s like). It is only going to get worse, petrol prices are NOT coming down. Your pay is not going up, but everything in our community is, from loans to rent, to the products you all bring into town.
Unless we as true blue Australians stand together as ONE. A National Strike in support for better pay and conditions and facilities for drivers (Rest Stops) and driver safety issues.
Truckie Strike
Thank you citizen X your input is right and on behalf of truck drivers everywhere we thank you from our hearts.
I hope you are able to get out of your homeless situation and I wish I could help but with struggling truck repayments and the bank on my back, well you get the picture.
Maybe you should become our voice
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Thank you so much for your input and support, it is truly wonderful for a person such as your self who isn't a driver or doesn't know any truck drivers,(therefore little about the industry) for you to voice your concerns for us truckies is truly humbling, we need more people/support such as yourself. Thank you
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For your information, I am from a family of truck drivers, my husband, father and 2 brothers are all owner drivers so therefore I feel just as much knowledge as you. I know the new laws, I know the conditions, I know the financials. And I know FORCE achieves nothing.
To the know it all
YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!
go away.
I'm not sure who this is, i
I'm not sure who this is, i was replying to the person who wrote the msg that said they weren't a truck driver or didn't know any and had a 13 yr old daughter. Difficult replying with no names attached. My name is Donna
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I am the author of the article "Truck Strike"
Citizen X
c/o
P.O.Box 545
Cotton Tree Qld 4558
email: outbackfamily@bigpond.com
Truckie Strike continue
Support the truckie industry - come on guys, if you all strike then change will be FORCED to happen.
Why wont't the unions support this? Is someone in the union being paid to ensure truck drivers continue work? Why do I ask this? Because it does not make sense that these hard working truck drivers are not getting a fair pay.
Consider the pay a taxi driver gets? This pay is so much more than a truck driver. Why are truck drivers the ones who have to suffer?
I call for a National Truck Strike to last until changes happen even if it is for more than a month
Truckie Strike
You are 100% correct,someone is getting paid.......
His name is Hughie Williams.I have a mate in the union and he tells me the membership have not been given a chance to vote on it.Down with Hughie Williams his day will come and may he rot in hell when it does.
National Truck Strike
Totally agree with the strike.
totally agree with truck strike 2
Why Why Why do people still think it is better not to join in this shut down and continue on working,im over hearing-its not gonna achieve anything.
then u get the ignorant tossers saying we should just persevere and try other avenues like communicating with the right people blah blah blah.
You are effectively saying_DONT STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES,just continue on the way you are and sumthing will happen-WELL GUESS WHAT!!!!
How many bloody years have we been waiting???.
IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!!
This is what we are left with!!!.
The Media coverage is pitiful to the point where it SUX.
IM still 150% behind it.KEEP IT GOING!!!!
reply to totally agree with truck strike 2
God why cant you people see YOUR ACTIONS ARE NOT WORKING! You tried your strike and it failed because your colleagues out there who have actually given it some thought have realised that trying to FORCE change isnt the way to go! All that this strike has achieved is bad publicity. Watching the news last night I was embarrassed for those of you backing this! WAKE UP! Maybe try behaving like civilised human beings and communicate your point in a mature way instead of throwing a tantrum! Thats right, thats all this strike is being percieved as!!!! And as for this forum its unreal! Anyone who even slightly doesnt agree with this action gets attacked. You call on your colleagues to join you yet you turn on them at the first chance.
An Oldtimers comment re 'force'.
"Trying to FORCE change isn't the way to go", is said. Come on ! How the hell do you think the working stiff ever got a pay rise, better safety conditions or two, then three and four weeks annual leave with loadings etc? Let me tell you it was not by the 'goodness' of the bosses, nor of the big corporations. It was FOUGHT FOR, fought for very hard and in sometimes long and bitter industrial struggles. We had no choice but to FORCE these changes. They were not handed to us on a velvet lined plate!
Truckies today are fighting to prevent bureaucratic idocy from killing their chance to survive. They need better than just survival too. They need a decent livable wage that reflects their hard work, that gives a decent living to them and their dependents. Don't talk the nonsense of just talking, it must never be limited to only that. Talk is cheap, and it is never cheaper than when it comes dribbling out of a parliamentary politicians mouth!
The time for doing, for decisive action is well with us and the whole community needs to get involved. Force is all these pollies and more particularly, the bosses of the big companies refusing to pay drivers properly or charging too bloody much for fuel for them and us, understand. Wasn't the legislation forced on workers Howard's bandits, 'force'? Isn't the withholding of moneys that should be going to drivers and the fuel subsidies some companies are allegedly withholding 'force'? 'Force' is what allows certain benefits and previliges to a few and denies them to so many. 'Force' is what basically holds the social order of todays world as it is and slows the advance to a better from of society.
Don't whine about drivers and other working stiffs using a bit of their workers force (if you like to call it that) in retaliation for being pushed into a bad situation by the force of a different interest group (the big business trying to dominate them).
reply to oldtimers comment regarding force
Thankyou mate-thumbs up to you!!
Amy
How dare you insult us by
How dare you insult us by saying we are chucking a tantrum. We are going without pay to join in this shutdown, because we are desperate to provide for our families and we cannot continue doing unless the Government can see what they are doing to this industry & to our lives. You want to talk about maturity, i don't find your message to be all that mature. We are going to extreme lengths to try & achieve this shutdown, because we are in a desperate financial position & because the despair we feel is overwhelming. You should try putting yourself in a truck drivers shoes for 1 second. How would you like it if you were pulled up and fined because you mispelt something whilst you were at your chosen profession. You would think it was insane, well this is what truck drivers have to deal with under the new laws.
reply to how dare u insult us by
Thankyou,Well said.
Reply to my opinon.Truck Strike
See there we go again-COMMUNICATE UR POINT IN A MATURE WAY-duh...
U seem to have all the answers,Cmon.. SPIT THEM OUT!!!
Take ur rose coloured glasses off honey,ARE YOU BEING PAID TO COME ON HERE AND GO ON WITH YOUR CRAP OR WHAT???
Cant be bothered with people like you anymore-not worth my time.
So reply all u think u need too,but u will never change my mind and i will never ever agree with you just like alot of people.
So u enjoy your day and good luck with tha bingo playing.
reply to totally agree with truck strike 2
God why cant you people see YOUR ACTIONS ARE NOT WORKING! You tried your strike and it failed because your colleagues out there who have actually given it some thought have realised that trying to FORCE change isnt the way to go! All that this strike has achieved is bad publicity. Watching the news last night I was embarrassed for those of you backing this! WAKE UP! Maybe try behaving like civilised human beings and communicate your point in a mature way instead of throwing a tantrum! Thats right, thats all this strike is being percieved as!!!! And as for this forum its unreal! Anyone who even slightly doesnt agree with this action gets attacked. You call on your colleagues to join you yet you turn on them at the first chance.
Unions have lost heart
Most of the Transport Workers Unionists are employed by the large transport companies that have turned their backs on this shutdown. So whether they support this or not, they need the TWU to take them out as one. When the union looks at receeding numbers and wonders why, dont look any further than the NATIONAL ROAD TRANSPORT SHUTDOWN, 28/07/2008, where the bloody hell were you..........
Unions - Weak
So true, unions are raking in the money and not supporting the people they take the funds from.
Unions are becoming weak. For the TWU to stand by and just watch says it all. How they insure they have only people in the union who do not open there mouths - the puppets.
Australia is a weak country with no stance on things that matter.
well said
it really is as simple as that
Truckie Strike continue
Continue -
If people do not stand togethor as one, then nothing will be done.
Citizen X
Queensland
last rites
cmon fellas lets up the ante and give em what for this is our last chance to be heard . also tell the public this is not all about fuel fill them in cos the media is full of shit
the reason drivers are
the reason drivers are taking
Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 28/07/2008 - 21:13.
the reason drivers are taking this action is because the rates of pay mean we are getting your everyday needs to you at a very cheap rate. we help you save money. fuel isnt the issue. everyone is suffering because of high fuel prices. these actions by some groups arent rogue as everyone has a right to be heard and protest. how would u like your husband to do a full weeks work and at the end of the week you struggle to have enough money to pay your mortgage or buy your goceries. then take into the fact that the government bodies are introducing new logbook fines that if you are unlucky enough to get one you may not be able to pay your mortgage or buy groceries for a couple of weeks. this could be as a result of not having a suitable rest area for your husband to take a break. $1500 fine and $100 a minute that you are out of hours. being half an hour over doesnt cause accidents, the disgraceful condition of the bruce highway is what causes accidents. every truck driver needs to make a stand to the governments and tell them that we arent going to be pushed around and that we are more than revenue raises for the government budgets. is this the reason that $13billion of fuel tax hasnt gone into road maintainence or is this money going into there health budgets and education budgets??? it all comes down to government mismanagement of our taxes. and these new fines and increases in registration costs are just going to make the governments budget surplus even greater. makes it look like they are running the country in a professional manner. when the fact is the people who are the easiest targets, the truck drivers, are the ones left paying for it. what sort of an outrage would there be if the government put car and motorbike registration costs up by 150%. no one would stand for that so why should we!!
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tolls
is it true that tolls only pay $1.08 a litre for diesel
Whys that?
apparently they are eligible
apparently they are eligible for subsided fuel - they pay pittance for fuel and then charge a massive fuel surcharge to clients like woolies and coles and then pass on a small % if any to their subcontractors - who do the actual work. its big business gone bersek
I heard they pay 84 cents a
I heard they pay 84 cents a litre. Not sure how true it is but I have heard it from several different people.
The Real Issues....
Hi Everyone
Just a quick note to say that we are completly behind you all. My hubby is a truck driver, as is his father and I can say first hand how disenchanted all in the industry are. Being a truckie is a thankless job, and now the government is trying to do them both ways! It really irritates me when the media say this is all about diesel prices, what a load of. It is so much, much more.
I have also worked as the devils advocate as a logistics coordinator and can assure you that these guys 'taking a well earned holiday' are generally a great bunch and all they are asking for is a fair go!
Good Luck guys...
(My hubby is now stuck on the other side of the country so sooner rather then later would be nice)
Your Truck
To Mick Patell, if I were you I wouldn't worry about your trucking future and the money you say you're missing out on. Just keep a close eye on your truck, thats right your truck, it is set to become a fire engine..
Re.Your Truck
If anything happens to Mick or his truck I will make sure people know who to look for.I know a little about computers and I have already tracked you down dickhead..
re: Your Truck
Hey dickhead - put your name and address to that threat - wanker - let's see how far you get!!
YOUR TRUCK FIRE THREAT
YOU DICKHEAD PEOPLE WHO KNOW COMPUTERS FIND CLOWNS LIKE U PIECE OF PISS. i hope u get charged and identified
You idiot - you either have
You idiot - you either have rocks in ur head and like all the new legislation OR you are 1 of those people who have no idea about the industry and are just worried about having nothing on the shelves for a few weeks.
Welcome to our world!!!
free country every one can do
free country every one can do what they like want to stop stop want to drive drive either way kevo7 has had his way with everyone in oz
To the WANKER with the headin-YOUR TRUCK
Oh we have a HERO everybody-a GUTLESS HERO at that!!!!
Sumone has tha balls to take a stand on sumthin they believe in and try and do sumthin about it and sumone like u has to be a dumbf*ck and becum Mr IM GONA GET YOU BACK.
How old are u??
You suck.Go AWAY.
LOSER.
mrrrhhaaaaaahaaaaahaaaa Amy
mrrrhhaaaaaahaaaaahaaaa Amy
To the drivers & owners
I understand that the conditions being introduced aren't fair and I understand fuel and rego costs are terrible but don't you think there is a better way to get your point accross? You are making everyone suffer for the sake of making a point. There are alot of professions and businesses doing it so tough right now, its not just you drivers and owners. I am so tired of hearing about how this country will stop without trucks. Well if thats the case and if you want your industry to be seen as that critical then there is a certain level of responsibility to the public that comes with that label! If you expect people who aren't truck drivers or who are unaffiliated with the industry to respect you then respect them and their rights too! Maybe you would get a lot more support from the general public if you went about making your point in a civilised way rather than such a rogue way. We UNDERSTAND your doing it tough, we UNDERSTAND you do a great job - so why punish us by blocking our roads or taking action that may make it hard for us to function as families and communities? I am not biased to truck drivers, I am in a family of them, and my husband is continuing to do his work with the opinion that protesting and blockading won't achieve anything except punishing the general community. Yes I understand the food in my cupboards, my tv and probably this computer Im typing from came from a truck and I respect that, but that doesn't give you the right to demand my respect or to bring the roads I travel on to a halt. To ALL truck drivers and owners - you are VERY important to this country, so how about you show that you take that role seriously and behave in a dignified way. To the truck drivers not taking part in this action - you are truly the drivers that keep this country moving and I will support you in anyway I can.
the reason drivers are taking
the reason drivers are taking this action is because the rates of pay mean we are getting your everyday needs to you at a very cheap rate. we help you save money. fuel isnt the issue. everyone is suffering because of high fuel prices. these actions by some groups arent rogue as everyone has a right to be heard and protest. how would u like your husband to do a full weeks work and at the end of the week you struggle to have enough money to pay your mortgage or buy your goceries. then take into the fact that the government bodies are introducing new logbook fines that if you are unlucky enough to get one you may not be able to pay your mortgage or buy groceries for a couple of weeks. this could be as a result of not having a suitable rest area for your husband to take a break. $1500 fine and $100 a minute that you are out of hours. being half an hour over doesnt cause accidents, the disgraceful condition of the bruce highway is what causes accidents. every truck driver needs to make a stand to the governments and tell them that we arent going to be pushed around and that we are more than revenue raises for the government budgets. is this the reason that $13billion of fuel tax hasnt gone into road maintainence or is this money going into there health budgets and education budgets??? it all comes down to government mismanagement of our taxes. and these new fines and increases in registration costs are just going to make the governments budget surplus even greater. makes it look like they are running the country in a professional manner. when the fact is the people who are the easiest targets, the truck drivers, are the ones left paying for it. what sort of an outrage would there be if the government put car and motorbike registration costs up by 150%. no one would stand for that so why should we!!
to the wanker with the heading-To The Drivers and Owners
Dont you think if there was a better way to get the point across it woulda been done by now???????????
How STUPID are you????
That last sentence is SO LAME!!!
Does your husband know u wrote that? I am extremely embarrassed for you if thats what u think.
I dont think you understand anything at all
Trying to come across as someone that knows it all has not done u any favours becuz quite frankly u sound like a moron!
Pretty Frustating really and very dissapointing.
Amy.
From the wanker with the heading to the drivers and owners....
Thanks for your reply Amy. If you are so immature to not respect that this forum is for people to express their opinion then maybe you could pick a teenage chat room.
Yes my husband was sitting with me when I sent it and I couldnt care less for your insults.
What is truly disappointing is that your life is so sad you resort to attacking me for having a point of view different to your clearly dim opinion.
back to you-the wanker with the heading-to the drivers and owner
Well actually u must of cared for my insults-YOU REPLIED DID U NOT?!?!
Dim Opinion eh???,lol,get over yaself,i stand by my words-YOU HAVE NO IDEA.so go crawl back under the rock u came out of and be gone.
Ok girl I have my opinion as
Ok girl I have my opinion as the wife of a driver, you have yours as.... whatever you are.
My view is, yes the conditions are hard and what the industry is asking for isn't unreasonable BUT this protest wont communicate that any better than people actually joining associations, getting behind the industry and talking with the relevant ministers and governments.
So it hasn't worked yet....keep trying. As I said before, how many strikes or protests actually get results from that action? How much more progress is made in a less sensationalised meetings behind closed doors with the right people?
Now as for your conduct on here, I disagree with quite a few opinions on this forum but I havent gone and personally insulted the people who wrote them just because they dont agree with me. So take YOUR uninformed trash talk and maybe come back when you actually have a valid opinion to offer.
yes you!
my uninformed trash talk?im personally insulted by that!
So arnt u actually doin what u say im doin?
and yes i too am the wife of a driver,and yes we had our own truck for years.
if u are offended by my comments dont read em,simple.
Truckies have been doing it
Truckies have been doing it tough for years and put up with it while they wait for the reps to make some progress and change the working conditions for truckies which is the reason why this stoppage is going on. People complain about doing it hard for a few weeks .... well now you know how the truckies have felt for years.
Maybe if they had all our support they might get somewhere and the stoppage would be over quickly, if society do not support the truckies in this fight it will just prolong the stoppage.
100% behind them!!
to the previous comment - the
to the previous comment - the media put a blanket ban on the plight of Mick Pattel and supporters - so whilst this may be an inconvenience - this has been on the books for some 2 months - just no media outlet would print an unbiased story.
media coverage
no wonder things in this country are up the shit when lyn bullshits is getting the news bulletin. what gives mick? you appeal to the normal bloke and public thats why we are behind you not that unrealistic prick of a thing
bullshitters
IS IT TRUE BLENNERS ARE GOING WHEN SIR LES STOOD UP IN FRONT OF US IN TOWNSVILLE AND PUBLICLY BACKED MICK PATTELS INITIATIVES & SAID HE WOULD SIT HIS TRUCKS DOWN IN SUPPORT. PLEASE LET ME KNOW YES OR NO SO WE CAN EITHER CEASE OR CONTINUE WORKING WITH THIS COMPANY
Bullshitters
Aparently Frasers have done exactly the same shitty act
Blenners
It's True.
blenners hypocrite
iF THIS IS TRUE BLENNERS BETTER MAKE SURE THEY NEVER FUCK UP IN FRONT OR AROUND ME AND THE NEXT JARRED UP CLOWN I SEE AT A ROADHOUSE WILL BE GETTIN PUT IN TO THE COPS THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST SO IF IT IT TRUE THAT THEY ARE STILL GOING MAKE LIFE HELL FOR THEM AND REPORT EVERY LITTLE FUCK UP etc TO THE LOCAL POLICE ZONE
I FIND YOUR LAST SENTENCE TO
I FIND YOUR LAST SENTENCE TO BE EXTREMELY IGNORANT!!
Reply to "the drivers and owners"
Firstly, the majority of us operators are not rogues, as you wrote. The majority of us are not involved in blockades or violence. We are parked up at home, we have. We have chosen not to transport goods, as is our right. Violence and blockades are NOT on our agenda.
There isn't a better way to do this now. Dialogue has not worked, the governments will not listen to real life situations, to how the fatigue regulations will work in reality. Our associations have not been able to change our governments mind, so that only leaves this last desperate action.
If these fatigue regulations go through, sunshine, you and your businesses will do it tougher when your freight does not get carted to you as quick as you want, when your freight charges escalate even more. And if you are in a family of truck drivers then you should know that the new fatigue laws will affect you drastically, if you have even read them and tried to understand them.
Most people I know have stopped because of the new fatigue regulations more than anything else.
I am parked up, my friends are parked up, and alot of others are parked up, and we are not blockading. We are usually doing maintenance or spending time with our families. We are losing money whilst doing so, but we believe this is the last thing to do.
And as for the other idiot who claims he will sue us if his freight isnt carted, I say "bring it on". At least put your name to it, you are obviously gutless. You cannot sue us for choosing not to cart your freight. Obviously there are foolish people everywhere.
Reply to Dallas
I apologise Dallas, I wasn't referring to truck drivers in general as rogues, rather the actions of some drivers taking part in these actions. I dont think that stop work, for any industry achieves results. Teachers, nurses and other industries conduct strikes and protests and yet its during talks behind closed doors that change actually happens. I am very aware of the new laws and how they will affect my family, I am aware of all of the changes and no I dont think they are fair or reasonable, but I also dont think that stopwork or protests or blockades are going to achieve what you as an industry are hoping for.
I understand you have a point to make and Im not sure what the answer is to getting what you are hoping for but what's going on at the moment isn't going to achieve anything but more bad PR for the industry. Communication is always the better option and I know representatives and drivers of the industry have tried before but perserverance pays off! All I am saying here is that if the truck drivers won't cart the freight then who suffers? The public do. And its the public's support that you need to help back you up! The guy who made the comment about suing is clearly very stressed too by this whole situation, so how about rather than insulting and threatening on these forums, how about some understanding for EVERYONE involved...that is the owners, drivers, other businesses and yes, the public. Yes there are foolish people in the world, but just because someone has different ideas to you, that doesn't make them foolish.
Apology accepted
I accept your apology, I just felt that we were all getting put into the same box as those from the mob calling for blockades and possible violence.
I didnt think I insulted you (though I shouldnt have said "sunshine" I supposse). I may have insulted the person who threatened to sue by calling him an idiot, but he didnt offer another view, he just said he'd sue. If he added a view or opinion to back up his comment, it may have made more sense.
I agree that communication is better, but it hasn't worked. Persistence will not pay off in this case as the authorities have said these are the rules and will stay that way ( the new fatigue regs that is). The associations ended up accepting these new regulations, so in alot of peoples opinions they have technically failed the operators.
I agree that more should become members of associations, and if they had more then they may have more "pull" to the government, but it still doesnt mean we wouldnt have these "world first" regulations stuck on us (apparently they are called world first on their own website).
I respect your opinion, but the talks have occurred and failed, so until someone could come up with a better idea this is unfortunately what it has come to.
cheers,
Dallas Brookfield.
Well said Dallas
Well said Dallas
Amendment to the above,Reply to the drivers and owners
I apologise, my previous reply didnt have my name.
So here it is as I am not gutless.
My name is Dallas Brookfield,
and I live in Dubbo.
I support this park up 150%, and I belong in an association as well.
You tell us what to do to
You tell us what to do to make the government and authorities listen and stop creating legislation that will damage the livelihoods of truckies. Im sure all truckies are open to suggestions coz we have tried everything and nothing has worked. Do you really think that this stoppage is what we all want?? Coz if you do your mistaken this is what we have to do so we are heard.
This fight has been going on for years and the government had the same thoughts as majority of society that this stoppage would not go ahead, so people werent bothered by the initial plan but now it has everyone is panicing and getting irrate.
Truckies did the right thing but making it public that the stoppage was going ahead and everyone has had at least a month to prepare. It is not our fault that people didnt take it seriously because it could have been kept quiet and no one would have had any warning.
Just remember this stoppage has occurred because we are being ignored.
Mr Pattell
I sue you you bastards if my stock dosen't get through
Well anonymous - you had
Well anonymous - you had better get the spelling of his name right first
BIG MAN
HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
GET REAL.
You had plenty of warning
You had plenty of warning about the stoppage so you should have been prepared!!!
shutdown
I have no affiliation with truckies but wanted to let them know I, and just about everyone I have spoken to about it, are right behind them!
your strike
what a waste of time, made you look very stupid with very few drivers taking part, just made fools of yourselves